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Old 03-02-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Raleigh
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I'm still waiting on someone to quote a gospel verse in which Jesus teaches anything about homosexuality let alone, gay marriage.
It was a given.
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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I thought all blacks walk in lockstep with Obama on EVERYTHING!
You are about to see the application of situational logic at its absolute finest as Conservatives try to explain this phenomena.
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:49 PM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Calling a homophobe a homophobe doesn't mean I hate him. It's just calling a spade a spade.
Calling someone who dislikes homosexuality, a homophobe, is inaccurate.
Fear is not in the equation. Revulsion is closer, but not as visceral.

It is not the person, but the act, I abhor. Hate is inaccurate, far from it,
it is closer to sadness and pity. I feel sorry for the individual.

Very nice people, can do horrendous things, when they are confused or
mislead.
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:58 PM
 
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They are homophobes.
Racist!
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Old 03-02-2011, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Calling someone who dislikes homosexuality, a homophobe, is inaccurate.
Why do they dislike homosexuality if not out of homophobia?

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Racist!
So, homophobes are now a race?

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Don't be racist now. I know how you liberals get when minorities disagree with the Democrats
So, religious bigots are also a race?
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Old 03-02-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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Calling someone who dislikes homosexuality, a homophobe, is inaccurate.
Fear is not in the equation. Revulsion is closer, but not as visceral.

It is not the person, but the act, I abhor. Hate is inaccurate, far from it,
it is closer to sadness and pity. I feel sorry for the individual.

Very nice people, can do horrendous things, when they are confused or
mislead.
Fear certainly is in the equation.

You're right that one can merely "dislike" homosexuality and not be a homophobe. I never claimed that disliking homosexuality makes one a homophobe. I've talked to plenty of people who say "I find homosexuality icky and I dislike it, but that's no reason to deny them equal civil rights. To each his own."

Often people who "dislike" homosexuals take it much further - they actively seek to repress and discriminate (by supporting and passing laws banning gays from accessing the legal rights of a civil marriage contact, banning them from military service, etc). You only do that if you fear the consequences of not doing so (no matter how irrational those fears are).

Merely disliking homosexuality does not make one a homophobe. Disliking and fearing homosexuality so much that you actively seek to repress its acceptance and discriminate against homosexuals certainly makes you a homophobe.
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Old 03-02-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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Why do they dislike homosexuality if not out of homophobia?


So, homophobes are now a race?

Eez yoke!
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Old 03-02-2011, 01:02 PM
 
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Fear certainly is in the equation.

You're right that one can merely "dislike" homosexuality and not be a homophobe. I never claimed that disliking homosexuality makes one a homophobe. I've talked to plenty of people who say "I find homosexuality icky and I dislike it, but that's no reason to deny them equal civil rights. To each his own."

Often people who "dislike" homosexuals take it much further - they actively seek to repress and discriminate (by supporting and passing laws banning gays from accessing the legal rights of a civil marriage contact, banning them from military service, etc). You only do that if you fear the consequences of not doing so (no matter how irrational those fears are).

Merely disliking homosexuality does not make one a homophobe. Disliking and fearing homosexuality so much that you actively seek to repress its acceptance and discriminate against homosexuals certainly makes you a homophobe.
Wrong. Fear has nothing to do with it. A sense of moral propriety is the motivating force.

There is also a huge difference between discrimination and seeking to repress acceptance.
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Old 03-02-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Coalition of 34,000 Black Churches Blasts Obama Over DOMA Flip-flop

Good, stand up for what you believe, I'm proud of them.
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Old 03-02-2011, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Wrong. Fear has nothing to do with it. A sense of moral propriety is the motivating force.

There is also a huge difference between discrimination and seeking to repress acceptance.
Are you fearful of a situation that dismisses your moral standing?
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