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Teachers unions are the special interest blocking school choice | Gary Beckner | Op Eds | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/01/teachers-unions-are-special-interest-blocking-school-choice - broken link)
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keep ALL students who are enrolled. No dumping the discontents and malcontents, or students who are on the wrong end of the Bell Curve.
This is the problem with public education. Too many kids behave like animals and they are entitled to education so they can't' be disciplined or kicked out. I am all for educating people who need extra help and want to learn, but the entitlement gravy train for the misbehaving children needs to end. Give them a job digging ditches and watch them shape up. The problem children degrade the quality of education for all and schools just end up being prisons for the kids who want opportunity and are willing to work.
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If they take govt. money, they will have to play by the govt's rules. "He who pays the piper calls the tune".
It is not the government's money. It is OUR money. You are ridiculously smug in your statism.
[/list]This is the problem with public education. Too many kids behave like animals and they are entitled to education so they can't' be disciplined or kicked out. I am all for educating people who need extra help and want to learn, but the entitlement gravy train for the misbehaving children needs to end. Give them a job digging ditches and watch them shape up. The problem children degrade the quality of education for all and schools just end up being prisons for the kids who want opportunity and are willing to work.
It is not the government's money. It is OUR money. You are ridiculously smug in your statism.
Exactly and it must serve the needs of ALL, not just those who meet with your approval.
If they take govt. money, they will have to play by the govt's rules. "He who pays the piper calls the tune".
You shouldn't have to set any rules for them, the competition between the schools for the funds will drive them to provide a quality education. That is the whole point of letting the parents pick the school their children attend. Besides that you'll be hindering how they can approach things. Suppose a school wants specialize in arts, sciences, maths or even special education. Instead of rigid rules you allow the school to cater to students abilities.
[/list]This is the problem with public education. Too many kids behave like animals and they are entitled to education so they can't' be disciplined or kicked out. I am all for educating people who need extra help and want to learn, but the entitlement gravy train for the misbehaving children needs to end. Give them a job digging ditches and watch them shape up. The problem children degrade the quality of education for all and schools just end up being prisons for the kids who want opportunity and are willing to work.
It is not the government's money. It is OUR money. You are ridiculously smug in your statism.
econo, problem kids are not the problem facing public schools, they're the product of them. education needs to be re thought and unfortunately it can't be done at the monlithic federal level or even state level. the way i see it, the system is failing a high enough percentage of the kids that it's time to try everything to see if anything works.
[/list]This is the problem with public education. Too many kids behave like animals and they are entitled to education so they can't' be disciplined or kicked out. I am all for educating people who need extra help and want to learn, but the entitlement gravy train for the misbehaving children needs to end. Give them a job digging ditches and watch them shape up. The problem children degrade the quality of education for all and schools just end up being prisons for the kids who want opportunity and are willing to work.
The legislation in PA isn't going to force any school into it, the student can apply to any public or private school they want. They get in if accepted.
The only issue I foresee with this down the road is special ed. The only issue thing I can come up with regarding this any school accepting these funds also has to take X amount of special education students.
i believe that vouchers/charter schools are far better than what we have today and it's a step in the right direction.
any thoughts
Every person has school choice.
You can choose to pay for private education for your kids.
I'm childfree, support public schools with my property taxes.
I have no problem with that.
I never used the public school system myself.
VOUCHERS destroy public education. They take funds from the schools, further undermining them.
Want a private education for your entitled kids?
Pay for it.
i believe that vouchers/charter schools are far better than what we have today and it's a step in the right direction.
any thoughts
It's not school teachers in the way, it's parents. All you'll be doing is smearing problems around. When schools are funded by property tax structures it guarantees the best education for wealthy neighborhoods, and the worst for the poorest neighborhoods no matter how gifted the student. Compound that with poor people working more hours, less available to parent kids, plus the inherited dysfunction that made them poor (the parent & neighborhood being their handicap)... it's too much to overcome alone. Wealthy neighborhoods have more parenting time available, more support structures reinforcing school lessons etc.
I'm not suggesting wealthy kids should have a dumbed down education but I think solutions applicable to the problem children need revised thinking. I also think if we're going to spend a dime on bottom performers lagging behind a dime should be spent challenging advanced placement students. Disciplinary problems in schools should never be tolerated. It only undermines the education of all. Drop the kid off at CPS and let the parents have the conversation with them. Schools are not meant to be free daycare system and parents unable to be parent need confrontation. Every kid slipping through the cracks is destined to be another punk on the street lashing out from neglect.
You can't blame teachers for the marching orders they're following anymore than you can blame the cop for a law being written. Challenge the content of curricula/ standards makes far more sense than erecting yet another building. Challenge policies dealing with problem children as well. Telling someone to curb their brat is not out of line. I've been to too many PTA meetings and parents all too often blame teachers for their kids performance. Frankly all I saw/ heard was the parent being the biggest handicap the child had. Perhaps CPS can teach parenting skills prior to teachers getting involved in the meeting?
Teachers unions are the special interest blocking school choice | Gary Beckner | Op Eds | Washington Examiner (http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/01/teachers-unions-are-special-interest-blocking-school-choice - broken link)
no doubt these are publications/op-eds your royal highness doesn't approve of
Every single one of those publications/ think tanks is an amalgamation of Koch/ Murdoch multi billion agenda. They've misdirected blame to satisfy personal gain yet again. If they had something to offer they wouldn't spend their every waking moment attacking another plan. That's how I know with certainty they aren't worthy of my ear anymore. WSJ is a sales tool of reaganomics that cannot bear to criticize itself. It's spent reputation is as comical as Forbes celebrating Jeffrey Skilling.
The legislation in PA isn't going to force any school into it, the student can apply to any public or private school they want. They get in if accepted.
The only issue I foresee with this down the road is special ed. The only issue thing I can come up with regarding this any school accepting these funds also has to take X amount of special education students.
Memory serves me right they solved special ed students on long island by creating a separate school and over rode the distance restrictions. There has to come a point, however, that the school system is let off the hook for those who genuinely cannot live up to any standards. Some children will be left behind. Some will forever be stuck in 6th grade functioning level even in adult bodies. Reality check, folks. That's life and we're far better off investing time in vocation training for menial jobs because brain function handicap isn't something anyone can reasonably overcome. It's as permanent a condition as brain injury. Our expectations need to change. Our civilization needs to find a place for them. That's all we can humanely do.
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