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They both tried to convince the Secretary of State to hold up the bill by taking the maximum 10 days allowed by law before publishing the bill.
Citizens for Responsible Government Rep. Chris Kliesmet says, "This suggests, and this is a harsh word, collusion. There is collusion between some politicians and public sector employee unions.
Plot from government ? We need to call Mulder and Scully !
It's not a surprise Sanrene, we already know that
I know we have known all along the democrats and unions are joined at the hip. The unions are the trough at which the democrat party feeds, they will not go quietly in giving up the slop.
I know we have known all along the democrats and unions are joined at the hip. The unions are the trough at which the democrat party feeds, they will not go quietly in giving up the slop.
sanrene; it is those that do not give credience to this, that are ignorant. Why allow this to happen. Dems are joined at the hip, with a awful lot of People, in the pocket sort of speak.
Wait--first off, Citizens for Responsible Government is a tea party group--not a neutral media watch dog. Go check out their site. I'd give them about as much credibility as I'd give Glenn Beck
Since when is it a crime for a Mayor to contact his State representative about an issue impacting city government? Do you think perhaps that the mayor might want to avoid throwing city government into immediate chaos if the bill passed, and the entire structure changed, with no warning, especially since they were trying to wrap up contract negotiations? Remember--the initial R plan was to pass this bill in less than a week with no public debate. They even initially lied to the D's in the house about the vote time so they couldn't try to offer amendments or demand a debate. I'm sure there were lots of school boards and local governments trying to figure out what was going on. A request to buy time was not unreasonable--bills like this are usually passed with months of debate, and time to make plans.
If the mayor was trying to do a sneaky backroom deal, do you think he would have put it in a written request to the rep? You've got to be kidding me. This was about as above board as it gets.
Where, any place in all of this, do the unions come in? Did they contact the state rep? The accusation of collusion has absolutely nothing to back it up that I can see.
Last--it didn't happen. They didn't slow down the printing of the bill. The request was rejected. FOX couldn't find any record of the Dem Senators leaving for any of these reasons--they admitted that in your own link and FOX broadcast.
Wait--first off, Citizens for Responsible Government is a tea party group--not a neutral media watch dog. Go check out their site. I'd give them about as much credibility as I'd give Glenn Beck
Well, since we have the actual emails to prove what this group is saying, then I guess you'd have to conclude that Glenn Beck is very credible too.
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Since when is it a crime for a Mayor to contact his State representative about an issue impacting city government?
It's not. But only a fool would claim that Mayor wasn't talking to the unions...so collusion between the Mayor, the Unions, and the State Senator is VERY plausible of an allegation.
Well, since we have the actual emails to prove what this group is saying, then I guess you'd have to conclude that Glenn Beck is very credible too.
That's my point--do you think they'd PUT A REQUEST IN WRITING if this was some type of conspiracy? You've got to be kidding.
It's not. But only a fool would claim that Mayor wasn't talking to the unions...so collusion between the Mayor, the Unions, and the State Senator is VERY plausible of an allegation.
So you have a Mayor trying to settle contract negotiations, who contacts his state representative IN WRITING about looking into whether or not it's possible to slow down a bill they had ZERO NOTICE of, that would make sweeping changes in how local governments do business, in order for them to be able to finish up their original city operational plan, and give them time to respond to changes down the road, rather than immediately. The request was denied. That's collusion?
Even FOX admits they couldn't find any connection to the Senators leaving the state. This is a joke.
Even FOX admits they couldn't find any connection to the Senators leaving the state. This is a joke.
Who cares about that?
The allegation is collusion between politicians and the unions:
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Citizens for Responsible Government Rep. Chris Kliesmet says, "This suggests, and this is a harsh word, collusion. There is collusion between some politicians and public sector employee unions.
We already KNOW the motives of the 14 Fleabags. Collusion is more serious.
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