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Old 03-08-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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I had said, why does it matter? And why should students be treated differently than any individual?
They would be inspired to vote a lot of caca in they would never end up paying for, and the locals would all have that stuck on their property taxes for years.
That IMO is a problem.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:44 AM
 
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This is getting complicated really over the tax implications.
Most of these away students who are not 100% at home who have a foot still in their parent's house probably have their parents filing them as dependents.
If they do things that make them residents in their college town, then they don't officially reside with their parents (just away in college for studies) and this turns their parent's tax returns into potential tax fraud.

The other things are more the side issues IMO, including the driver's license and so forth.

I think if they change their vote registration it does complicate the tax filing status their parents would have.
Then also some kids are kind of stupid and will register a second time in their college town and effectively vote twice in elections in two regions of the United States also opening them up to felonies.

Very complicated stuff IMO.

If the parents lose the write offs for children they are paying for then that could be so bad they could have to remove their children from school.
Lots of complications IMO. Better to keep it simple.
It is not illegal for children to establish residency in another state while in college while their parents claim them as dependents. Claiming children in college as dependents is an exception in the tax code to begin with, because if they weren't in college they couldn't be claimed as dependents since, for the most part, they are over the age of 18.

It does not complicate the tax filing status their parents have.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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They would be inspired to vote a lot of caca in they would never end up paying for, and the locals would all have that stuck on their property taxes for years.
That IMO is a problem.
So, suppression of voting rights is the idea. Good point! As for the locals, perhaps they only want to benefit from the students supporting their community.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:59 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default GOP Attempting to Keep People from Voting

Voter suppression is becoming an increasingly popular GOP tactic.

Voter suppression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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So, suppression of voting rights is the idea. Good point! As for the locals, perhaps they only want to benefit from the students supporting their community.
I would have a problem living in a college town where this 4 year special interest group would come in, vote themselves the city treasury and then leaves without paying for any of it. You think that is fine?
This is similar to why they don't let felons vote, you'd have politicians pandering to the criminals in prison for their vote.
Felony special interests groups and a 4 year student special interest group are both not healthy for the local area they would be voting in IMO.

Students could be migratory voting block in the tens of thousands that could vote in politicians who would then only favor the college and make the locals property taxes rage.

If these students graduate, make real roots after and move into the town that is far better IMO.

There may be many good ways to do things, this IMO is not good for the local people with a college in their city.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:05 AM
 
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I would have a problem living in a college town where this 4 year special interest group would come in, vote themselves the city treasury and then leaves without paying for any of it. You think that is fine?
This is similar to why they don't let felons vote, you'd have politicians pandering to the criminals in prison for their vote.
Felony special interests groups and a 4 year student special interest group are both not healthy for the local area they would be voting in IMO.

Students could be migratory voting block in the tens of thousands that could vote in politicians who would then only favor the college and make the locals property taxes rage.

If these students graduate, make real roots after and move into the town that is far better IMO.

There may be many good ways to do things, this IMO is not good for the local people with a college in their city.
The college community is ever-present. It doesn't go away every four years.

And they contribute mightily to the local economy. Restaurants would close if the college went away. Bookstores, department stores, clothiers, all depend on those college student dollars. And the city depends on the sales tax that those college students pay for the privilege of shopping in the community. Not to mention the income that's generated by college sports programs.

The students are a vital part of the community. The argument against their having a say in the community is not about the students costing the community, it's about partisan politics. Period.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:14 AM
 
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Voter suppression is becoming an increasingly popular GOP tactic.

Voter suppression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What about the hundreds of thousands of military suppressed in the 2004 and again in the 2008 elections? Hundreds of thousand were stopped from voting and would have prevented a ton of Democrats who were elected by that.
80% at least of the military do not vote Democrat.

Then, we do need to require a photo ID to vote as we have to when you buy a $3 meal at Taco Bell.
We also need to purge voter roles every two years to get rid of the false voting going on as well.
Dead and non-people vote all the time in some places.

I think we should just start with common sense and go from there.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I would have a problem living in a college town where this 4 year special interest group would come in, vote themselves the city treasury and then leaves without paying for any of it. You think that is fine?
This is similar to why they don't let felons vote, you'd have politicians pandering to the criminals in prison for their vote.
Felony special interests groups and a 4 year student special interest group are both not healthy for the local area they would be voting in IMO.

Students could be migratory voting block in the tens of thousands that could vote in politicians who would then only favor the college and make the locals property taxes rage.

If these students graduate, make real roots after and move into the town that is far better IMO.

There may be many good ways to do things, this IMO is not good for the local people with a college in their city.
Besides everything that has been said above, why do you assume that while a student may only be around for 4-7 years, that a "towner" is guaranteed to be there for long? Shouldn't you go ahead on that premise and say that people should be eligible to vote only if they have stayed in town for say... at least four years? Is that the idea?
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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It's just the GOP trying to keep those that have yet undergone "training" from voicing their opinions on political candidates and issues.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:17 AM
 
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The college community is ever-present. It doesn't go away every four years.

And they contribute mightily to the local economy. Restaurants would close if the college went away. Bookstores, department stores, clothiers, all depend on those college student dollars. And the city depends on the sales tax that those college students pay for the privilege of shopping in the community. Not to mention the income that's generated by college sports programs.

The students are a vital part of the community. The argument against their having a say in the community is not about the students costing the community, it's about partisan politics. Period.
I don't think you see much of a problem with local students living at home and going to local school.
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