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Old 03-09-2011, 12:57 PM
 
Location: North America
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Not in spain.

I hear the rain in Spain falls mainly in the plain....

Does anyone know the meaning of the word gradual?

Look it up on gooooooogle.
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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2.2 jobs lost for every one gained. Not a very compelling argument.
Unless you're a dedicated marxist.
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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I would like to thank the OP for reminding me to call the gas company to get the status on drilling a new well in my back yard..
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:00 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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I hear the rain in Spain falls mainly in the plain....

Does anyone know the meaning of the word gradual?

Look it up on gooooooogle.
Only in this case gradually could mean......never. The fact of the matter is if there are monies to be made someone in the private sector will make it work. You simply cannot get the same results by government decree. That' crap has been tried......and it failed........everywhere it was tried. Please try to learn from the various socialist/communist experiements history has provided willya'?
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:01 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Whaddya' mean "we" limosine liberal?? Socialism is for the rich, not the working poor. In the end it's always us who suffer.

source
Wow! Really? "Limosine Liberal"? LOL! If you knew me you would feel very foolish calling me a socialist and a liberal. I'm as hardcore a Libertarian as they come and am the farthest thing from a socialist. However, no need to be hostile. As I stated, I'm not trying to tell people how to vote, speak or what God to pray to - I'm merely pointing out that our dependency on oil is a national security matter. It keeps us indentured unto other nations. Who is the socialist who weaned the world off of wood and moved them to steam-powered engines or coal for warming up their homes? Who is the liberal who moved us from steam-engines to petroleum? Who will the socialist/liberal be who moves us beyond petroleum? If you want to keep making the Saudis rich, that is your right. We will eventually depart from oil as a source of fuel and the time is now to begin building the infrastructure to do it.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:02 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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I would like to thank the OP for reminding me to call the gas company to get the status on drilling a new well in my back yard..
Good luck on that. This democratic administration is dead set against it. Apparently, oil companies contribute monies to the republican party.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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You are aware that people who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, aren't you?


source (http://www.fff.org/freedom/0697f.asp - broken link)
...which is exactly why there was a complete "shadow" government infrastructure quietly constructed Top Secret America | washingtonpost.com and broad authority granted to FEMA as well as the US military to conduct ops on American soil.

Yea, it's almost as crazy as Alex Jones or Glenn Beck, but you can't just do this stuff in broad daylight, so "check and redirect" is employed to carry it out below the radar where only kooks dare to peek. They see the pieces, but wack out with their conclusions, which in turn makes the kooks otherwise valid discovered bits and pieces seem wacky too and therefore ignored by the mainstream, hidden in plain sight.

In a nutshell, the plan is to go Gaddafi on the population when/if history inevitably repeats itself. It may work... it might not. But it's gonna be ugly, and the means for the government to survive that contingency are already in place.

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Old 03-09-2011, 01:05 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Wow! Really? "Limosine Liberal"? LOL! If you knew me you would feel very foolish calling me a socialist and a liberal. I'm as hardcore a Libertarian as they come and am the farthest thing from a socialist. However, no need to be hostile. As I stated, I'm not trying to tell people how to vote, speak or what God to pray to - I'm merely pointing out that our dependency on oil is a national security matter. It keeps us indentured unto other nations. Who is the socialist who weaned the world off of wood and moved them to steam-powered engines or coal for warming up their homes? Who is the liberal who moved us from steam-engines to petroleum? Who will the socialist/liberal be who moves us beyond petroleum? If you want to keep making the Saudis rich, that is your right. We will eventually depart from oil as a source of fuel and the time is now to begin building the infrastructure to do it.
Drill our own oil until technological breakthrus allow something else to replace it. It isn't rocket science.......or maybe it is for some of us.

BTW no self respecting libertarian would ever suggest the government to proscribe this. A job like this is just too damned important to be left to government.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Good luck on that. This democratic administration is dead set against it. Apparently, oil companies contribute monies to the republican party.
Which is the exact reason people like Inhofe are bought and paid off by the Oil Industry.... We have a budget problem, the GOP keeps harping on, but we can't dare cut that $4 billion in oil subsidies to companies making the largest profits in the entire country now can we....
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:05 PM
 
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Even if you drilled in every available spot in the country, very little of it would go into the gas tanks of Americans.

Why would any oil company capitalist sell it where they would make the least profit.
They wouldn't. They will sell it where they can get the most - outside of the USA.
Using the same tankers that they import with, they would then be able to export.
Maximizing for greater profit.

This is the liberal propaganda myth.

It defies the concepts of supply and demand. Oil is a commodity. The prices of oil are determined by global commodity markets. When the market is flooded with a commodity, the price goes down. It does not matter where it is produced.

If the US added its fields and alternative fossil fuels, oil prices would go down.

Ask any liberal and you will get exactly the opposite answer, which defies laws of economics and common sense. Now that makes sense.
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