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Old 03-09-2011, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Tallahassee
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That's a goddamn f&&king lie and you know it.
that's right, jill
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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They just admitted the collective bargaining rights issue has nothing to do with the budget.
Of course it does. With splitting the CB from the main bill, that issue is now put to rest and the budget repair bill WILL include the concessions and "fiscal" part of the bill.

Just because one is passed before the other is meaningless.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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That's a goddamn f&&king lie and you know it.
The emails prove the point - the Governor was negotiating all along, the dems weren't interested. They left the GOP/Walker little choice, since they said nothing the GOP had done to get them back was working and nothing they could do in the future would get them to return.

Once the CB was split and resolved, we all knew the dems would come back.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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They took it out of the budget bill. The only way they could hold a vote on an issue without 20 Senators present is if the issue has no budgetary or fiscal impact. By voting on this they proved that it did not.

And the Dems ran away to thwart the democratic process, they hate democracy. The Dems actions were simply a tactic but the Republicans actions are something else? Hipocrisy much?
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:19 PM
 
Location: NJ
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amen, shorebaby.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Of course it does. With splitting the CB from the main bill, that issue is now put to rest and the budget repair bill WILL include the concessions and "fiscal" part of the bill.

Just because one is passed before the other is meaningless.
By splitting it from the main bill, it proves collective bargaining rights has nothing to do with the budget whatsoever. Not to mention they completely broke the open meetings law.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The emails prove the point - the Governor was negotiating all along, the dems weren't interested. They left the GOP/Walker little choice, since they said nothing the GOP had done to get them back was working and nothing they could do in the future would get them to return.

Once the CB was split and resolved, we all knew the dems would come back.
The governor is a liar and you want to believe him.

Walker did not release those e-mails until it was clear the Dem. senators were not going to fall for his lies.

The compromise Walker gave was only trickery of words to trick the Dems back for a vote.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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By splitting it from the main bill, it proves collective bargaining rights has nothing to do with the budget whatsoever. Not to mention they completely broke the open meetings law.

See abve that canard has been shattered.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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By splitting it from the main bill, it proves collective bargaining rights has nothing to do with the budget whatsoever. Not to mention they completely broke the open meetings law.
Walker has no respect for truth or the law!
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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The emails prove the point - the Governor was negotiating all along, the dems weren't interested. They left the GOP/Walker little choice, since they said nothing the GOP had done to get them back was working and nothing they could do in the future would get them to return.

Once the CB was split and resolved, we all knew the dems would come back.
The Democrats were the ones negotiating all along, the Unions agreed to some of the concessions to begin with. The main issue, the reason the Dems left, the reasons for the protests was the collective bargaining rights issue. Walker refused to budge on that, and now the GOP just proved the collective bargaining rights issue had nothing to do at all with the budget or fiscal policy.
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