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Old 03-12-2011, 05:06 AM
 
Location: Tower of Heaven
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There’s a significant debate now taking place in Washington – largely behind closed doors, but sometimes covered by the media – on whether fiscal conservatives should maintain a rigid no-tax-increase position. One side of the debate features Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform, which is the organization that maintains the no-tax increase pledge. The other side features Senator Coburn of Oklahoma, who is part of a small group of GOP Senators who might be willing to increase the tax burden as part of a deal that supposedly reduces deficits.
I’m a huge fan of Senator Coburn, who was in favor of cutting wasteful spending before it became fashionable. His office, for instance, releases a “Pork Report” every couple of days. But you shouldn’t read it if you have high blood pressure, because it will confirm (and reconfirm, and reconfirm, ad nauseum) your worst fears about tax dollars getting wasted.
Nonetheless, I’m on Grover’s side on this tax debate for two reasons.


» Tax Increases Will Lead to More Spending, Not Lower Deficits - Big Government

Hé hé hé
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Old 03-12-2011, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Paul Ryan is being reasonable. He said he would consider tax hikes after serious spending cuts were enacted. This is the right way to go about things. You are right tax increases only lead to more spending.
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Old 03-12-2011, 05:50 AM
 
Location: North America
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If you want to give the government more money...then simply write the Feds an extra check and leave MY money out of it!
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Old 03-12-2011, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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There’s a significant debate now taking place in Washington – largely behind closed doors, but sometimes covered by the media – on whether fiscal conservatives should maintain a rigid no-tax-increase position. One side of the debate features Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform, which is the organization that maintains the no-tax increase pledge. The other side features Senator Coburn of Oklahoma, who is part of a small group of GOP Senators who might be willing to increase the tax burden as part of a deal that supposedly reduces deficits.
I’m a huge fan of Senator Coburn, who was in favor of cutting wasteful spending before it became fashionable. His office, for instance, releases a “Pork Report” every couple of days. But you shouldn’t read it if you have high blood pressure, because it will confirm (and reconfirm, and reconfirm, ad nauseum) your worst fears about tax dollars getting wasted.
Nonetheless, I’m on Grover’s side on this tax debate for two reasons.


» Tax Increases Will Lead to More Spending, Not Lower Deficits - Big Government

Hé hé hé



The simple fact of the matter is there is no left/right debate in this country.

The political debate is between those who pay taxes and those who receive from the hand of government.

Those who pay taxes, or anyone willing to acknowledge a corrupt system in which votes are exchanged for stolen money is unsustainable and immoral, are said to be conservatives, neo-cons, heartless corporate shills, teabaggers, racists war-mongers and far far worse.

This is what should be expected since those who make it their business to take from those too young to vote are doing that which cannot be defended with rational thought or reasonable arguments. Anyone who does something this morally despicable needs an excuse for what they do.

Demonization of those who oppose generational theft is the salve used to alleviate whatever shame these people still feel. Look for attacks on responsible patriots to continue as long as votes can be purchased with stolen money, and look for that theft to continue as long as children are unable to stop it.
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Old 03-12-2011, 06:37 AM
 
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The political debate is between those who pay taxes and those who receive from the hand of government.
Only those who actually pay federal income tax should have the vote.
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Gone
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The simple fact of the matter is there is no left/right debate in this country.

The political debate is between those who pay taxes and those who receive from the hand of government.

Those who pay taxes, or anyone willing to acknowledge a corrupt system in which votes are exchanged for stolen money is unsustainable and immoral, are said to be conservatives, neo-cons, heartless corporate shills, teabaggers, racists war-mongers and far far worse.

This is what should be expected since those who make it their business to take from those too young to vote are doing that which cannot be defended with rational thought or reasonable arguments. Anyone who does something this morally despicable needs an excuse for what they do.

Demonization of those who oppose generational theft is the salve used to alleviate whatever shame these people still feel. Look for attacks on responsible patriots to continue as long as votes can be purchased with stolen money, and look for that theft to continue as long as children are unable to stop it.
What a load of stuff, great for the garden.
Casper
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:14 AM
 
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Only those who actually pay federal income tax should have the vote.
So you want to cut out Students that are not working, Seniors and Housewives, Never Happen.
Casper
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:24 AM
 
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What a load of stuff, great for the garden.
Casper

Nice drive-by.

Now skedaddal before someone asks you what's factually wrong in my post.
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Old 03-12-2011, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Tower of Heaven
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Nice drive-by.

Now skedaddal before someone asks you what's factually wrong in my post.
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:49 PM
 
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Nice drive-by.

Now skedaddal before someone asks you what's factually wrong in my post.
Everything, your entire theory is based on a false premise.
Casper
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