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Old 03-13-2011, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I did. And the first 20 links are all reporting this very same incident. Hardly an Islamic invasion.

See for yourself...
People Other Than Mexicans Currently In Detention In ICE Custody Including From Terrorist Countries - News Story - WSB Atlanta (http://www.wsbtv.com/news/23436627/detail.html - broken link)
Try these links to documents from the Department of Homeland Security.
http://www.wsbtv.com/download/2010/0503/23436558.pdf (broken link)
http://www.wsbtv.com/download/2010/0503/23436608.pdf (broken link)
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:43 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Default muslims prefer toyotas and subway sandwiches

With all these mosques and muslims in the US it appears America is not institutionally anti muslim.

You might make a case Canada is anti-muslim when you see 7million in the US vs 1 million in Canada. That conclusion would be a stretch for a reasonable person but would exceed the threshold for a political hack trying to rally votes.

AMERICAN MUSLIM DEMOGRAPHICS - MUSLIM AMERICAN POPULATIONS OUTREACH PROGRAMS
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: New England & The Maritimes
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With all these mosques and muslims in the US it appears America is not institutionally anti muslim.

You might make a case Canada is anti-muslim when you see 7million in the US vs 1 million in Canada. That conclusion would be a stretch for a reasonable person but would exceed the threshold for a political hack trying to rally votes.

AMERICAN MUSLIM DEMOGRAPHICS - MUSLIM AMERICAN POPULATIONS OUTREACH PROGRAMS
Muslims are a much of visible minority in Canada than in the US. They are a higher percentage of the population, they are on TV more often, and you generally just see a lot more (at least in cities in the eastern half of the country).
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Old 03-13-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me
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Oh really ?!!

After conquest of Meccah that tortured early muslims and forced them finally to go out to Madinah, this was the situation:
"O you people of Quraish! What do you think of the treatment that I am about to accord to you?"

They replied:
"O noble brother and son of noble brother! We expect nothing but goodness from you."

Upon this he said:
"I speak to you in the same words as Yusuf (the Prophet Joseph) spoke unto his brothers: He said: "No reproach on you this day," [Al-Qur'an 12:92] go your way, for you are freed ones."

source :The Prophet Muhammad boigraphy

What's your source ?

And your source is a book of ancient fairy tales? Citing Mother Goose would be just as valid as the Quaran.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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If America saw Muslims immigrating in numbers proportionate to the Muslim immigration to European countries, there would be a lot more Islamophobia. That said, the Muslims that do tend to immigrate to America are not the dregs of Muslim society like the ones in Europe. American Muslims, by and large, actually admire America and want to make a life here through hard work while many of the Muslims who are immigrating to Europe are classified as 'political refugees' which means that even Muslim countries find them dangerous or criminal.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:02 PM
 
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With all these mosques and muslims in the US it appears America is not institutionally anti muslim.

You might make a case Canada is anti-muslim when you see 7million in the US vs 1 million in Canada. That conclusion would be a stretch for a reasonable person but would exceed the threshold for a political hack trying to rally votes.

AMERICAN MUSLIM DEMOGRAPHICS - MUSLIM AMERICAN POPULATIONS OUTREACH PROGRAMS
1 million/ 33 million = 3%
7 million/ 300 million = 2.3%

Just saying.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:03 PM
 
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This question is like a Wife-Abuser asking why his Wife doesnt trust him anymore...And somehow, according to him, she must be the one with the problem !

Anyways, Prior to 9/11 most Americans were not anti-Muslim and if anything were ignorant about Islam. They saw Islam as just another religion with odd customs but nothing more than that. Certainly before 9/11 you never heard of US Muslims in the news much at all, they were heard about as often as American Buddhists were [which is to say, not much at all]. Discrimination towards Muslims was [and still is for the most part] nill aswell. Any city that has a large Muslim population is flooded with Arab doctors, Professors, Scientists, and Engineers [the US receives the most educated Muslims for the most part, unlike Europe].

Anti-Muslim sentiment only began popping up among average Americans after 9/11, you know, that event where Muslims hijacked airplanes and slammed them into the Trade towers while chanting "God is Great".

Add in events following 9/11 such as -
- The Shoe-bomber attempt to down a US plane shortly after 9/11.
- The Muslim soldier in the US army who slaughtered his fellow soldiers by lobbing grenades in their tents as they slept in Iraq.
- And the Muslim psychiatrist in the US army at Ft. Hood, who caused 43 casualties by shooting up the base in the name of Islam.

Those events are to blame for any anti-Muslim sentiment in the US. If those events did not occur then Anti-Muslim sentiment would be close to nill. And this country would not be in Afghanistan or Iraq right now aswell [9/11 led to those invasions, invading them is debatable but in Iraq's case 9/11 gave a good excuse to go there].

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Old 03-13-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: London, England
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If America saw Muslims immigrating in numbers proportionate to the Muslim immigration to European countries, there would be a lot more Islamophobia. That said, the Muslims that do tend to immigrate to America are not the dregs of Muslim society like the ones in Europe. American Muslims, by and large, actually admire America and want to make a life here through hard work while many of the Muslims who are immigrating to Europe are classified as 'political refugees' which means that even Muslim countries find them dangerous or criminal.


Many that move to Europe are very anti west and hate us. Very annoying when they come here, express their hate towards us and our government still gives the stuff.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Just out of curiosity, even if you'll manage to send all the Muslims to their respective homes (though I'm not sure what would be "home" for the ones who were born in the States) who would be next on your "sending home" list? Asians? Eastern Europeans? Africans? South Americans?
How about we keep it to anyone that would kill another over religion? How's that?

Oh, and there is no such thing as a "moderate Muslim" they are all fanatical killers.
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Old 03-13-2011, 02:22 PM
 
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People Other Than Mexicans Currently In Detention In ICE Custody Including From Terrorist Countries - News Story - WSB Atlanta (http://www.wsbtv.com/news/23436627/detail.html - broken link)
So... anyone who isn't a Mexican is Muslim to you? Otherwise I don't understand why would you even use this report.

The fact that there are illegal immigrants in this country other than Mexicans was never in doubt, the "fact" that Muslim immigrants are constantly being caught at the border was.
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