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Old 03-15-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Earth
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And just think, obamacare will give us the same healthcare system as the Canadians have..

Can't 'ya just wait?

I wonder then who will take the Americans that the doctors want to pull the plug on?

Mexico?

Russia?

China?

Iran?
What do you think insurance companies do now?
They do their best to NOT help the patient. They hire attorneys and have clerks making decisions about care.

Are you really that blind or is this all willful?
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:35 PM
 
Location: North America
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If the toddler is indeed terminally ill with zero chance of surviving without the aid of constant machinery... it'd be the worst decision a parent could make, but the right one would be to let the child die in peace instead of dragging out the pain, agony, and suffering of the child, the parents, family, friends, and even the hospital staff who have take care of the child in such a state.

The reasoning the parents gave is twofold:

1. Removing the tube would result in suffocation, therefore causing the child to suffer

2. They want to keep him alive for a longer period of time.

I would remove the tube, rather than extend his life. The hospital could administer morphine to ease his suffering.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Hmmm. That's sad. I realize the parents don't want to have to see the kid die through suffocation, but I still don't think they are doing him any favor by dragging out his life a few months. This is an example of a case where euthanasia should be an option to prevent suffering.
The kid is 13 months old. He hasn't lived nearly long enough. If he were my kid, I'd keep him hooked up to life support for decades, hoping they develop a cure for his condition.

Euthanasia is evil. Any kind of life is better than death. There is nothing worse than dying . . . nothing. I'd be willing to go to heroic lengths to save a life, especially a child. No one should have to experience the horrors of death, especially not a small child.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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The reasoning the parents gave is twofold:

1. Removing the tube would result in suffocation, therefore causing the child to suffer

2. They want to keep him alive for a longer period of time.

I would remove the tube, rather than extend his life. The hospital could administer morphine to ease his suffering.
Honestly, if they're going to end the life by removing the tube, they could do so by administering some sort of medication that would kill him soundlessly and quickly.

Of course, this can't happen, because we can't have assisted suicides in this country, even if the person's going to die anyways.

"Moral legislation" at its best, it seems.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:38 PM
 
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The kid is 13 months old. He hasn't lived nearly long enough. If he was my kid, I'd keep him hooked up to life support for decades, hoping they develop a cure for his condition.

Euthanasia is evil. Any kind of life is better than death. There is nothing worse than dying . . . nothing. I'd be willing to go to heroic lengths to save a life, even a child. No one should have to experience the horrors of death, especially not a small child.

And he is terminally ill and deteriorating.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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The kid is 13 months old. He hasn't lived nearly long enough. If he was my kid, I'd keep him hooked up to life support for decades, hoping they develop a cure for his condition.

Euthanasia is evil. Any kind of life is better than death. There is nothing worse than dying . . . nothing. I'd be willing to go to heroic lengths to save a life, even a child. No one should have to experience the horrors of death, especially not a small child.
And who would pay this bill???
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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And he is terminally ill and deteriorating.
I don't care. Keep him hooked up. I believe in God, and He can perform miracles.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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The kid is 13 months old. He hasn't lived nearly long enough. If he was my kid, I'd keep him hooked up to life support for decades, hoping they develop a cure for his condition.

Euthanasia is evil. Any kind of life is better than death. There is nothing worse than dying . . . nothing. I'd be willing to go to heroic lengths to save a life, especially a child. No one should have to experience the horrors of death, especially not a small child.
See, here's the thing.

The only thing keeping him alive is a tube.

There is nothing else.

There IS no hope for the kid.

It's painful, but the kid's dying, and the parents need to let go. I'd like to say I'd do the same if my child was dying with no hope of recovery.

Euthanasia is NOT evil, it's MERCIFUL. If I was dying, I'd rather go my own way.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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And who would pay this bill???
I can't believe money is even a consideration. One human life is far more important than all the cash in the world.

Personally, I think the taxpayer should pay the bill.
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Old 03-15-2011, 01:41 PM
 
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I asked what would you do? Not what Obamacare would do. If you had read the article, the parents moved the child here because a court in Canada said the doctors could remove a breathing tube. The child is terminally ill, and the parents want to have a trach tube inserted.

Now, to answer the OP question, what would you do?
Pull the plug
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