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Old 03-15-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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No link? Figures.. Just more liberals making up garbage..
When you figure how to link to a person, let me know. You might even be able to patent that.

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What is there, 1 person taking petitions?
Yeah. That's generally how it works.

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You'd think with all of those pretend lines you are claiming there would be more than a lousy 50-60K signatures...
Nonsense.

That's about 3,700 signatures a day. It is a huge number.
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Old 03-15-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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When you figure how to link to a person, let me know. You might even be able to patent that.
That wasnt your claim.. Shall we review?
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Where are the rest of your 1.1 million people?
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Standing in line at the grocery stores waiting to get a chance to sign.
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Yeah. That's generally how it works.
Actually thats not how it works, especially with 1.1M individuals according to you, "standing in line"..
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Nonsense.

That's about 3,700 signatures a day. It is a huge number.
Thats hardly a large number.. One person can do 1-200 signatures a day easily, especially if they are all standing in line waiting to sign..

That works out to about 20-30 people gathering signatures in the WHOLE state? Haha.. ooh I bet Republicans are scared now!!!
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Old 03-15-2011, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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So funny so many non-Wisconsin people here are so pro-Walker. Not their fight. Must be getting paid per post.

The real Wisconsin people are plenty ticked off.

Once again, for the ten-thousandth time for people who REFUSE to recognize the obvious, Walker's autocratic, heavy-handed, deceptive approach is what people are so INFURIATED about. It is not "greedy" public employees.

It IS Walker's vendetta to destroy unions. It was always about the unions. Always. He tried to hide his agenda by saying it was fiscal, but when he couldn't do it that way, he put the issue in a bill that was NONFISCAL so he could achieve his goal - BREAK THE UNION - thereby proving he was lying all along. It was NEVER a fiscal issue.

I am not pro-union or against - but I am AGAINST Walker's roughshod obdurate refusal to listen to anyone. That is scary and it scares most Wisconsin voters.

Walker believes he is NOT answerable to the voters - especially if what the voters want - and most of them - at least 60% - disagree with him right now - is not what HE wants.

Someone has called him Governor Liar. I think that is an appropriate description. We can't get rid of him fast enough.
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Old 03-15-2011, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Talking points memo.... Pffffffffffffffft!

First thing they need to do is gain 25% of the valid signatures which is going to be hard to do.

But that is the easy part.

Next thing is to actually win in an election where people vote. If I worked for TPM Machinery as a union worker of course I would sign the petition but what I do in the voting booth is my business.
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Old 03-15-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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Talking points memo.... Pffffffffffffffft!

First thing they need to do is gain 25% of the valid signatures which is going to be hard to do.

But that is the easy part.

Next thing is to actually win in an election where people vote. If I worked for TPM Machinery as a union worker of course I would sign the petition but what I do in the voting booth is my business.
You should maybe read the thread. They already have half the signatures needed, in 15 days...45 days left to get the other half.

So it's actually NOT HARD TO DO.

Then comes the poll which already show 3 losing and 2 close to losing...Liberal groups will donate Millions to help fund these races.

Ain't Democracy great?
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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You should maybe read the thread. They already have half the signatures needed, in 15 days...45 days left to get the other half.

So it's actually NOT HARD TO DO.
I am willing to guess 33% are invalid.
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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That wasnt your claim.. Shall we review?
No. That wasn't my claim. That was my source.



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Actually thats not how it works, especially with 1.1M individuals according to you, "standing in line".
Actually, you are wrong yet again. It is exactly how it works. Signatures for petitions are generally collected by stationing the collector in front of a high traffic venue like a grocery store. Usually, you don't get lines though.

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Thats hardly a large number.. One person can do 1-200 signatures a day easily, especially if they are all standing in line waiting to sign.
It appears that you've never been involved in a petition drive. First you figure out the number of signatures you need, you adjust for a certain percentage that will be tossed out, and then you build and field the team to go collect them.

So in the case of Wisconsin they need roughly 125,000 good signatures. Figure 10% get kicked out, that bumps up to about 138,000 signatures.

With 60 days to collect, they need 2300 signatures a day. While one person can collect 100-200 signatures a day, the pragmatic planning figure is actually closer to 75. So the entire signature collection team needs to be about 30 people.

In the case of Wisconsin, they appear to be collecting signatures at about 2 times the rate they need. Sounds to me like a very successful program so far.

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That works out to about 20-30 people gathering signatures in the WHOLE state? Haha.. ooh I bet Republicans are scared now!!!
Given the number of signatures they need to collect to force the recalls, that actually sounds pretty much exactly right. Who knew the collections would go so much faster than they planned?

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Old 03-15-2011, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I am willing to guess 33% are invalid.
Well... your "guess" is just as good as... your guess.


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Old 03-15-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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I am willing to guess 33% are invalid.
Wow...............[yawn]
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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Putting the chicken before the egg really. Get somehting on the ballot is much easier than getting it passed.
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