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Old 03-16-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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And the appeal was filed exactly as demanded by the judge.
yep.. but now asking for it to be held off isnt "time is of the essence".. in fact its the OPPOSITE..

Obama is now violating a federal court order if he asks for it to stop..
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:34 PM
 
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Not if you knew who has requested expediency and to bypass the normal process.
Ok.. please enlighten me.. WHO? and how do you think you know more than a US Federal judge about the process?
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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yep.. but now asking for it to be held off isnt "time is of the essence".. in fact its the OPPOSITE..
So?

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Obama is now violating a federal court order if he asks for it to stop..
He didn't ask for it to stop.

The order was to file an appeal in 7 days. He filed the appeal in seven days. What court order was violated?
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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So answer my question all you that love obama care.......


If Obama is so tried and true about this and is so sure that all the "i" are dotted and all the "t" crossed.......

Why is he not standing on the Supreme Courts door step, saying YES, lets get this over with.....

Why is he not doing that? Can someone explain that to me.....
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Why is he not standing on the Supreme Courts door step, saying YES, lets get this over with.....
Because he is counting on a reversal on appeal that will make his position stronger when it finally gets in front of SCOTUS.

Duh.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: The Heartland
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"Rule 11 allows the Supreme Court to bypass intermediate review “only upon a showing that the case is of such imperative public importance as to justify deviation from normal appellate practice and to require immediate determination.”

A law that transforms one-sixth of the U.S. economy should qualify as having “imperative public importance,” especially if parts of it would be difficult to undo. “Immediate determination” is vital because many of the law’s provisions are activated in 2011. “Costs are being incurred on a daily basis,” Mr. Cuccinelli told The Washington Times. “And the economy is howling for certainty right now.”


One costly provision beginning Jan. 1 requires health plans to provide “rebates” to consumers if less than 85 percent of the premiums are spent on “clinical services and quality.” This attempted straitjacket on the market is counterproductive. Major companies will be unable to afford to offer plans favored by many consumers that provide fewer benefits for smaller premiums. This rebate requirement was the main reason McDonald’s announced it would drop 30,000 people from its health plans - until the Obama administration, showing raw political favoritism, granted the burger giant a waiver. Not every company will be blessed with a waiver, however, and many companies that abandon such plans may be unable financially to reinstate them afterward."
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:45 PM
 
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So?
That the best you can do? SO? Typical left wing.. you dont care when its YOUR side ignoring court orders..
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He didn't ask for it to stop.

The order was to file an appeal in 7 days. He filed the appeal in seven days. What court order was violated?
Its very clear that you have no concept of a time is of the essence order. By asking the Supreme Court to not get involved, which will delay the Supreme Courts decision, you are VIOLATING the order which mandated time is of the essence..

There is nothing limiting the Supreme Court from taking the case from the appellate judges to hear it.. Sadly for you liberals its up to the Supreme Court to decide what they hear.. not Obama and not you liberals.

The 1974 Expedition Act allows the Supreme Court to bypass the previous courts when the court ruling has national significance.

By asking that the 1974 Expedition Act be ignored, he is indeed violating the federal judges demand for time is of the essence.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:46 PM
 
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So answer my question all you that love obama care.......


If Obama is so tried and true about this and is so sure that all the "i" are dotted and all the "t" crossed.......

Why is he not standing on the Supreme Courts door step, saying YES, lets get this over with.....

Why is he not doing that? Can someone explain that to me.....
The DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE filed a brief in response to a request to expedite made by the opposing attorney. Their response points out that skipping lower courts and the thoughtful opinions of lower appeals courts is to short-circuit the legal process. Barring an emergency, we haven't done that in the past, and there is no need to do it now. The Supreme Court justices will review the application by Virginia's Attorney General, and the brief filed against that application by the DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, and will make up their own minds.
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:48 PM
 
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Because he is counting on a reversal on appeal that will make his position stronger when it finally gets in front of SCOTUS.

Duh.

So he is stalling....I just wanted to see if a leftie would say that....

Thanks...
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Old 03-16-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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That the best you can do? SO? Typical left wing.. you dont care when its YOUR side ignoring court orders..

Its very clear that you have no concept of a time is of the essence order. By asking the Supreme Court to not get involved, which will delay the Supreme Courts decision, you are VIOLATING the order which mandated time is of the essence..

There is nothing limiting the Supreme Court from taking the case from the appellate judges to hear it.. Sadly for you liberals its up to the Supreme Court to decide what they hear.. not Obama and not you liberals.

The 1974 Expedition Act allows the Supreme Court to bypass the previous courts when the court ruling has national significance.

By asking that the 1974 Expedition Act be ignored, he is indeed violating the federal judges demand for time is of the essence.
There is no request for the Supreme Court to not get involved. There is every expectation that the Supreme Court will get involved. There is a request that lower courts not get involved. That the legal process be aborted. Virginia is asking for the legal process to be aborted. The Department of Justice is arguing that the process itself has value, and that skipping the lower courts ignores that value. The Supreme Court will have to decide.
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