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This is really funny. Do you guys really think that this is a big conspiracy? It really blows my mind. Also even if he wasn't born in the US, his mom was still a US citizen making him a natural born citizen anyway. Not that it matters though.
No, not in this case. His mother was too young to have conferred birthright citizenship on him, if he was born outside the US.
And I might be the Queen of England. But that's just not really likely.
What, was Factcheck lying when they put an article on their website saying they went to his headquarters and took pictures of Obama's birth certificate?
It wasn't there for months and YES they are lying. If it was there for months, why did he wait so long to LET anyone see it? Doesn't make sense. He just got it when they took that picture.
No, what we saw was a photocopy of something that resembled a BC. We didn't see ANYTHING that can be used for anythng at all. Do you think you can print out a copy of that BC from the website and use it?
What you saw what his bc posted online. You have also seen the actual certified copy in someone else's hand, not a printout...
ou're funny. Nobody actually SAW the PHYSICAL documents. NOBODY but people that CLAIM they did. Once a microfiche documents are scanned into a computer, they can be altered.
Of course I'm stating what if's because they are all possibilities. There are NO hard facts at all about any of this stuff. All we have seen are electronic (digital) copies of documents that very well could have been made up or altered. People can and DO get paid off to do underhanded things regardless of what letter is by their name. Until someone actually pulls out the microfiche and the BC and it is PHYSICALLY observed and known to be true nothing will ever be proven.
"We don't destroy vital records," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said. "That's our whole job, to maintain and retain vital records."
The Health Department's director reiterated yesterday that she has seen Obama's birth records.
"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai'i and is a natural-born American citizen."
So Dr. Fukuno 1) Lied when she said she'd personally seen these original documents on file, or 2) she was paid off? This is what you're suggesting? Seriously?
No, what we saw was a photocopy of something that resembled a BC. We didn't see ANYTHING that can be used for anythng at all. Do you think you can print out a copy of that BC from the website and use it?
Actually, YES.
Not that it matters, anyone that needs a certified copy can just get one from Hawai'i.
It will look exactly the same, except it will have a certification stamp on it proving that it is the official state record.
Then you can take that and have it "judicially recognized' in any court in the country.
See, what you guys need - and don't have - is evidence that can overcome the prima facie presumption that the COLB creates.
Without that, you lose.
As you have done, in every court case on this topic.
This is really funny. Do you guys really think that this is a big conspiracy? It really blows my mind. Also even if he wasn't born in the US, his mom was still a US citizen making him a natural born citizen anyway. Not that it matters though.
I think I read that there was some issue with the mother's age because she wasn't quite 19 when he was born, making her a teen mother, and apparently that affects her ability to pass on citizenship to her foreign born child.
Just to be sure you understand clearly what I'm asking here: these alleged fabrications would have HAD TO HAVE BEEN DONE IN 1961 for your theory to hold any water.
Please explain.
No they wouldn't! Once it is scanned INTO A COMPUTER, WHICH IT WAS, it can THEN be altered. I'm not saying that it was, it is definitely possible and has happened before on many types of documents.
No they wouldn't! Once it is scanned INTO A COMPUTER, WHICH IT WAS, it can THEN be altered. I'm not saying that it was, it is definitely possible and has happened before on many types of documents.
WHEN would this alleged alteration have had to take place, in order for the two newspapers to have printed the birth announcements in 1961?
What a freaking idiot this guy is. He should be trying to find a cure for cancer, or fix the economy.
Yeah, everyone thinks Trump is God with a nasty hairdo. If he's so great, why can't a man who owns casinos - a license to print money - stay out of bankruptcy?
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