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Everyone who thinks Trump's BC is not official is wrong. It may not be what is issued today, but hospitals used to issue BC's. That is where you got them from. What he showed was official before the Dept. of Health started managing them. Everytime I have used my BC, it was the one issued from the hospital with a raised seal. It was definitely legit whenever I used it. This is more official than Obama's COLB.
Everyone who thinks Trump's BC is not official is wrong. It may not be what is issued today, but hospitals used to issue BC's. That is where you got them from. What he showed was official before the Dept. of Health started managing them. Everytime I have used my BC, it was the one issued from the hospital with a raised seal. It was definitely legit whenever I used it. This is more official than Obama's COLB.
Seeing as Trump's campaign has already explained that releasing the nice piece of paper with the gold sticker was "an oversight" and have come up with a copy of a government-issued form, you're not just at odds with the facts, but with The Hairpiece himself.
From events, it's hard to tell whether Trump is really that ignorant, whether his staff is ignorant or whether they just bet that their intended audience is. Still, as political posturing goes, that is one Palinesque stunt.
Everyone who thinks Trump's BC is not official is wrong. It may not be what is issued today, but hospitals used to issue BC's. That is where you got them from. What he showed was official before the Dept. of Health started managing them. Everytime I have used my BC, it was the one issued from the hospital with a raised seal. It was definitely legit whenever I used it. This is more official than Obama's COLB.
I guess that really depends on who is checking birth certificates.
My husband was born in 1962 in a small Massachussetts hospital and was issued a hospital certificate with a raised seal. The school systems through the east coast took it; however, when he went to join the Air Force, it was no good. So he had to go to wherever the vital statistics department is in Mass. and get a "real" birth certificate. Guess what, it was there and it does exist but it just was not issued to the parents back then. Same thing for when we got married. The county courthouse was not interested in his pretty hospital certificate, we had to produce the real one.
Everyone who thinks Trump's BC is not official is wrong. It may not be what is issued today, but hospitals used to issue BC's. That is where you got them from. What he showed was official before the Dept. of Health started managing them. Everytime I have used my BC, it was the one issued from the hospital with a raised seal. It was definitely legit whenever I used it.
Trump has already said that releasing the hospital certificate was "an oversight." No, Trump's certificate is not official; it doesn't have the state's seal. That certificate is really not more than a fancy souvenir. Good for him for being able to have it after 64 years, but on a legal level, it's meaningless.
I don't know which state you're in so I can't comment on what has been legit in your circumstances.
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This is more official than Obama's COLB.
Sour "name one country that separates Sweden from Switzerland" D, let's read up on the Constitution, shall we?
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Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Art. IV, Sec. 1.
Birth certificates and other vital records have long been held to fall into the Full Faith and Credit Cause of the Constitution. Birth certificates issued by one state will be official in every other state, so long as it meets the minimum federal guideline. Your birth certificate by definition cannot be "more official" that Obama's COLB. At best, they are equally official.
He's such a $@hmu@k. He knows damn good and well that President Obama was born in the U.S. He's now claiming he's only bringing this up because of the other birthers.
Yep. I can't believe him to be dumb, but believe him to take full advantage of a dumb populace.
Seeing as Trump's campaign has already explained that releasing the nice piece of paper with the gold sticker was "an oversight" and have come up with a copy of a government-issued form, you're not just at odds with the facts, but with The Hairpiece himself.
From events, it's hard to tell whether Trump is really that ignorant, whether his staff is ignorant or whether they just bet that their intended audience is. Still, as political posturing goes, that is one Palinesque stunt.
It WAS the legal document at it's time. I'm only at odds with semantics here. Government never used to issue those that I'm aware of. I was always pointed to the hospital to get mine in the past, I know you can get them from vital records now, But I never have.
Trump has already said that releasing the hospital certificate was "an oversight." No, Trump's certificate is not official; it doesn't have the state's seal. That certificate is really not more than a fancy souvenir. Good for him for being able to have it after 64 years, but on a legal level, it's meaningless.
I don't know which state you're in so I can't comment on what has been legit in your circumstances.
Sour "name one country that separates Sweden from Switzerland" D, let's read up on the Constitution, shall we?
Art. IV, Sec. 1.
Birth certificates and other vital records have long been held to fall into the Full Faith and Credit Cause of the Constitution. Birth certificates issued by one state will be official in every other state, so long as it meets the minimum federal guideline. Your birth certificate by definition cannot be "more official" that Obama's COLB. At best, they are equally official.
A hospital BC is just as official as one from vital records, it depends on who is asking for it. Like I said, I have used AND STILL DO, my hospital BC which has the raised seal on it. I have used it to get a new SS card, a new DL and everything else you need it for. I have never been told it wasn't acceptable, all they said is that it had to have a raised seal on it, which it did.
What I was referring to about Obama's is that he has a printed copy AFTER the fact, not the original like Trump had. I didn't mean it like where it would be accepted or not accepted. Playing devil's advocate here, anyone can make a BC up with a good graphic arts program and post it online and say it is real, no matter where it came from. That's why everyone wants to see a raised seal on it, that way they know it is not a fake, or most likely not a fake. Why was the BC number on Obama's blocked out? Could it be because it is fake? Possibly, but we will never know.
A hospital BC is just as official as one from vital records, it depends on who is asking for it. Like I said, I have used AND STILL DO, my hospital BC which has the raised seal on it. I have used it to get a new SS card, a new DL and everything else you need it for. I have never been told it wasn't acceptable, all they said is that it had to have a raised seal on it, which it did.
What I was referring to about Obama's is that he has a printed copy AFTER the fact, not the original like Trump had. I didn't mean it like where it would be accepted or not accepted. Playing devil's advocate here, anyone can make a BC up with a good graphic arts program and post it online and say it is real, no matter where it came from. That's why everyone wants to see a raised seal on it, that way they know it is not a fake, or most likely not a fake. Why was the BC number on Obama's blocked out? Could it be because it is fake? Possibly, but we will never know.
Of course Obama's copy was a printed copy after the fact, because well that is what a legal birth certificate is in Hawaii. ALL of the birth certificate records in Hawaii are digitally stored on computer. The official LEGAL birth certificate is NOT what comes from the Hospital, but what comes from the state's vital records department. Its the same here in NY.
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