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I was just at the Hawaii Vital Records website, and they do not offer the long-form option, either. Here's the application form (PDF). You will see that there is no option for what certificate you get.
Maybe if you go into certain Island or County records offices they let you have an option.
Unfortunately, we can't go back in time to when they provided a certified photocopy or whatever they gave you. Now we only get what they provide, which is a certified printout of information digitally stored.
Just think - if we could go back in time, how many people would want to be in the delivery room?
Maybe if you go into certain Island or County records offices they let you have an option.
They might, but I don't think so, based on the walk-in section of the information page:
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When applying in person, the applicant must show a valid government-issued photo ID, such as a State ID, driver's license, etc.
Certified copies are usually not issued on the day the application is made. Same-Day service may be provided upon presentation of written documentation establishing the need for urgency. Certified copies will normally be available for pick-up about 10 working days after the request is approved. The pick-up time may be extended for records that are very old, because the search to locate the record may take longer, or in the process of being filed, because the official record is still being created.
Sounds like there's no option. I don't know what they mean by "very old", though. I'm guessing prior to the time they have them entered into their computer system.
Executive Order 13489 is virtually the same as Executive Order 123283, which President George W. Bush issued early in his presidency and which it replaced. That executive order is in turn virtually identical to its predecessor Executive Order 12667 which was issued by President Reagan. All of these orders deal specifically with the National Archive and its role in preserving presidential papers and records. The orders refer only to records generated by the office of the President during his administration which have been kept by the National Archive since that institution was created in 1934.
Starting with Reagan it has been the practice of successive presidents to keep their operating records secret until a later date when they are made public as part of the comprehensive record of their presidency.
Not really...
Obama made it so that only his counsel and his AG could review requests for his information - he could over-ride the FOIA at his whim.
I can get a copy of my long form birth certificate tomorrow. I already told you I have a copy at home. I also have the legal computerized abstract at home.
I wasn't born in this country? That's rich.
So get it, and scan it in. You can redact your name. I want to see tomorrow's date on it. I want to see what Ill. gives out now.
Executive Order 13489 is virtually the same as Executive Order 123283, which President George W. Bush issued early in his presidency and which it replaced. That executive order is in turn virtually identical to its predecessor Executive Order 12667 which was issued by President Reagan. All of these orders deal specifically with the National Archive and its role in preserving presidential papers and records. The orders refer only to records generated by the office of the President during his administration which have been kept by the National Archive since that institution was created in 1934.
Starting with Reagan it has been the practice of successive presidents to keep their operating records secret until a later date when they are made public as part of the comprehensive record of their presidency.
What he said.
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Originally Posted by Fleet
Yeah, a "legal birth certificate" with no signatures.
The only signature mine has is a rubber-stamped signature of the director of the department of public health of Pennsylvania. Mine was issued in 1965.
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Originally Posted by Sawdustmaker
Not really...
Obama made it so that only his counsel and his AG could review requests for his information - he could over-ride the FOIA at his whim.
Question is why?
What's he hiding?
Prove it. That executive order is exactly what Gary says it is.
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