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Old 05-21-2013, 08:12 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Then you aren't aware of all the employment ads requiring one to know Spanish to get hired? If that isn't forcing one to learn Spanish then I don't know what is.

We aren't a multi-cultural country in identity. We have one common culture and language and all others are just minority/sub cultures.
By whom? Companies wanting to market to the Hispanic community? I'm sorry, that's capitalism and free market forces at work. Spanish language communities are a market to be tapped. Is it wrong for companies not to hire you because you don't speak Spanish? If I was a programmer who only knew the programming language .NET, and a company was hiring programmers that needed to know Java, I wouldn't expect to get hired. The ability to speak a another language is a job skill, which companies use to increase market share and profits. If you don't have the skills, you don't deserve the job.

 
Old 05-21-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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By whom? Companies wanting to market to the Hispanic community? I'm sorry, that's capitalism and free market forces at work. Spanish language communities are a market to be tapped. Is it wrong for companies not to hire you because you don't speak Spanish? If I was a programmer who only knew the programming language .NET, and a company was hiring programmers that needed to know Java, I wouldn't expect to get hired. The ability to speak a another language is a job skill, which companies use to increase market share and profits. If you don't have the skills, you don't deserve the job.
Free market greed. It is mostly to pander to illegal alien Spanish speakers. Most Hispanic-Americans know how to speak English. To discriminate against English speaking Americans in hiring practices for that reason is despicable to me. They aren't asking for "skills" when posting job ads for bi-lingual workers for the reason above.

Your analogy is like comparing apples to oranges. Nice try though.
 
Old 05-21-2013, 08:42 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Free market greed. It is mostly to pander to illegal alien Spanish speakers. Most Hispanic-Americans know how to speak English. To discriminate against English speaking Americans in hiring practices for that reason is despicable to me. They aren't asking for "skills" when posting job ads for bi-lingual workers for the reason above.

Your analogy is like comparing apples to oranges. Nice try though.
Free market greed? The ability to make a profit improves the earnings of investors, management, and employees. You make profits by satisfying existing markets while seeking out new ones. This is the free market at work. I love how some people always argue that we must preserve The Free Market System and we should keep government out of it. But then they scream how unfair it is when that free market system goes inevitability where it has to go. You can only sell so many iPhones to so many white affluent Americans until you saturate that market and need to find new markets. And when you do, you need to hire the person with right language skills to relate to that market.

Your response tells me you like the capitalism that made this country great, until it starts to cater to a segment that speaks a different language than you. Nice try, though.

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Old 05-22-2013, 06:34 AM
 
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Free market greed? The ability to make a profit improves the earnings of investors, management, and employees. You make profits by satisfying existing markets while seeking out new ones. This is the free market at work. I love how some people always argue that we must preserve The Free Market System and we should keep government out of it. But then they scream how unfair it is when that free market system goes inevitability where it has to go. You can only sell so many iPhones to so many white affluent Americans until you saturate that market and need to find new markets. And when you do, you need to hire the person with right language skills to relate to that market.

Your response tells me you like the capitalism that made this country great, until it starts to cater to a segment that speaks a different language than you. Nice try, though.
Again, this is about pandering to illegal aliens for profit and yet you find this acceptable and maybe even admirable? Please.......

You last sentence is nothing but a lie because most Hispanic-Americans know how to speak English so it isn't about just cateriing to a segment of our populalaton that speaks a different language but pandering to ILLEGAL ALIENS. What part of that aren't you getting? I sure don't see many employment ads requiring Mandarin, Polish, German etc. and yet those and many other languages are spoken in this country also.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 07:25 AM
 
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I say Canada is the proof. In all of the quality of life polls and the happiness index Canada beats the USA hands down. The more diverse the country gets, the more successful the country as a whole is.
Surely you can show correlation that happiness is due to the racial diversity right?
 
Old 05-22-2013, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The people most in favor of diversity are the least tolerant of a diversity of ideas and opinion.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Surely you can show correlation that happiness is due to the racial diversity right?
It's surely part of it.
 
Old 05-22-2013, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I say Canada is the proof. In all of the quality of life polls and the happiness index Canada beats the USA hands down. The more diverse the country gets, the more successful the country as a whole is.
Canada is 77% White and the minorities in the single digits not even up to 5%.
How is that "diverse" ?
 
Old 05-22-2013, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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Canada is 77% White and the minorities in the single digits not even up to 5%.
How is that "diverse" ?
Take a walk around any of our major cities and you will know how diverse we are. We also have lots and lots of white diversity. We have a lot of Serbian immigrants here in Niagara falls and in my way of thinking they are just as different culturally as any visible minority is.

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Old 05-22-2013, 02:24 PM
 
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By whom? Companies wanting to market to the Hispanic community? I'm sorry, that's capitalism and free market forces at work. Spanish language communities are a market to be tapped. Is it wrong for companies not to hire you because you don't speak Spanish? If I was a programmer who only knew the programming language .NET, and a company was hiring programmers that needed to know Java, I wouldn't expect to get hired. The ability to speak a another language is a job skill, which companies use to increase market share and profits. If you don't have the skills, you don't deserve the job.
You just highlighted everything wrong with the concept of immigration.

It only benefits companies and the government, not the citizens.

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