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Old 03-19-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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I don't like indoctrination of children for any reason... even though its been going on for a while... I don't like the idea that we become another North Korea where children are taught that their leader is a god and anyone who doesn't believe will die...
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:12 PM
 
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I'd rather we get rid of public schools, altogether. Issue vouchers and the private schools could offer whatever they want and the parents could choose. If they don't like what is being taught, send your kids to a different school. Private schools, to be competitive, would probably seek out niche students.

The problem in some schools is that the ideology of the teacher even creeps into the math and grammar classes.

Math

Britney has 20 pencils. Her teacher redistributes her pencils to her poorer classmates so they each have 2 pencils. How many happy students are in Britney's class?

Grammar

I shop for organic groceries.
You shop for organic groceries.
He shops for organic groceries.
We shop for organic groceries.
You shop for organic groceries.
They shop for organic groceries.
This is hilarious! But in actuality more true than most are aware of! If you don't have kids or have them and aren't aware to look for this type of thing, it can easily slip by you. It's subtle indoctrination.For example, the green agenda is easily and very frequently incorporated into the math curriculum.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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Imagine...your school district allows you to sign your kid up for a specific kind of learning program for the next school year. Courses like math and grammar would be neutral but social studies, science (evolution) and literature would be segregated based on political philosophy.

You are given a choice of teachers for your child. Each teacher writes a summary of their political leanings and you can decide if their philosophy matches the political leanings of your family.

This would go a long way to end controversy of what your kids are being taught in school.
Here's a better idea. No curricula should be anything but presenting facts and preparing them to deal with the reality of being a responsible adult at some point in their future. Keeping a clear line of division between fiction and non fiction section of the library. Beyond that it's a parents job to instill values in their children. Stop demanding schools parent your kids. It's not the government's job and that's not the purpose of the teaching profession.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:25 PM
 
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Here's a better idea. No curricula should be anything but presenting facts and preparing them to deal with the reality of being a responsible adult at some point in their future. Keeping a clear line of division between fiction and non fiction section of the library. Beyond that it's a parents job to instill values in their children. Stop demanding schools parent your kids. It's not the government's job and that's not the purpose of the teaching profession.
In a fantasy world of unicorns and leprechauns this might fly.

But here in the real world, teachers are subtly and not so subtly teaching children what they WANT them to know. Teachers are not robots; they have an agenda like everyone else.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:30 PM
 
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The best idea is not to have any schools. Let each family indoctrinate their children as they want. This saves money and the parents take on the entire responsibility.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:31 PM
 
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In a fantasy world of unicorns and leprechauns this might fly.

But here in the real world, teachers are subtly and not so subtly teaching children what they WANT them to know. Teachers are not robots; they have an agenda like everyone else.
Sadly, this is reality.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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OK that math one is hilarious, even though I'm a liberal I had to LOL at that one, but you're not on mark with the organic groceries thing. How is organic food a liberal or conservative thing? There are plenty of fat liberals who eat unhealthy. And working class liberals who cannot afford organic food. We're not all hippies yaknow...
I never mentioned liberals anywhere in my post.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:38 PM
 
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Teach our kids Bertrand Russell and Ayn Rand right now!

I'm sick of them teaching them nothing but crap .... then even worse is these kids go home to their demented parents who read nothing but the bible... how are kids supposed to be intellectual adults when everyone is philistine??
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Old 03-19-2011, 09:00 PM
 
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Why?
Not for nothing but how can you be a conservative if you don't truly know what liberalism is? Vice versa too, of course.

Both need to be taught. Both need to be fully understood. People need to make their own choices.
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