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Old 03-23-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Dumbest idea I've heard in a long while. In a free country we should be able to support candidates of our choosing with as much money as we like. I'm all for putting a record of every dollar given on the internet within 24-48 hours, though.
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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Dumbest idea I've heard in a long while. In a free country we should be able to support candidates of our choosing with as much money as we like. I'm all for putting a record of every dollar given on the internet within 24-48 hours, though.
I am all for free speech.

However it does have limits to protect the public welfare.

To wit:

Do you want to let some moron yell Fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire?

No limits means that ultimately, only the Billionaires will make our laws!
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:07 PM
 
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No
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Chill out, PLEASE, chielgirl! I don't want "a thread to my topic", I was merely providing a link to one that already exists (not mine, btw), and is quite relevant to this topic.

Honestly!

Did you note option #4?
she thinks she is JR mod
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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1) Yep. I agree.

PVS, you want a thread on your topic, please start your own.
Hijacking any thread is not cool.
So you are reduced to playing Jr Mod.
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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I believe that we need a constitutional amendment limiting the size of campaign contributions from any and all sources.

I also believe that all contributions should have to be reported and open for public review, at least those contributions made above $500.00 or so per person or group.

I think that this could go a long ways toward eliminating the corrupting influences of our political institutions and laws by special interest groups.

What say you?

1) Yep

2) Nope

3) No change

4) I got a better idea
I believe we need campaign reform but why do we have to go so far as to amend the Constitution?
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:21 PM
 
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I believe we need campaign reform but why do we have to go so far as to amend the Constitution?
Because of the recent Supreme Court ruling on the Citizens United case.

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-23-2011, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Because of the recent Supreme Court ruling on the Citizens United case.

Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I don't see the connection.

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Citizens United v Federal Election Commission, 130 S.Ct. 876 (2010), was a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court holding that corporate funding of independent political broadcasts in candidate elections cannot be limited under the First Amendment. The 5–4 decision, in favor of Citizens United, resulted from a dispute over whether the non-profit corporation Citizens United could air a film critical of Hillary Clinton, and whether the group could advertise the film in broadcast ads featuring Clinton's image, in apparent violation of the 2002 Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act, commonly known as the McCain–Feingold Act.[2]
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Old 03-23-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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I am all for free speech.

However it does have limits to protect the public welfare.

To wit:

Do you want to let some moron yell Fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire?

No limits means that ultimately, only the Billionaires will make our laws!
You really want to compare giving money to a politician or party to yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater? If all contributions were made public people would see to it that politicians unduly influenced don't get the vote.
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Old 03-23-2011, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You really want to compare giving money to a politician or party to yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater? If all contributions were made public people would see to it that politicians unduly influenced don't get the vote.
Only if people were smart, much less match the foxiness of those who can afford to manipulate and get around such "restrictions". I feel that the government shouldn't be bought, so money ought to be out.

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