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For those who say Libya is a different situaton than Iraq. Imagine for one second that Bush took the same exact action against Libya. You would never hear the end of it. The media would bash the hell out of him, especially for not getting the approval of congress. The same liberals who are approving of this action now (or saying nothing) would be furious at Bush.
I do respect the liberals such as Michael Moore who are outspoken against Obama over this. At least they are consistent, that is a good quality...better than the "Obama right or wrong" crowd who are still under a hypnotic spell.
If the U.S supplied a supporting role under Bush to enforce a no-fly zone by bombing certain military targets without sending ground troops in the media would not have bashed him. Hell the media supported the initial invasion of Iraq...
Regardless, the situation is not even REMOTELY close to Iraq. Ground troops vs no ground troops for starters....
For those who say Libya is a different situaton than Iraq. Imagine for one second that Bush took the same exact action against Libya. You would never hear the end of it. The media would bash the hell out of him, especially for not getting the approval of congress. The same liberals who are approving of this action now (or saying nothing) would be furious at Bush.
I do respect the liberals such as Michael Moore who are outspoken against Obama over this. At least they are consistent, that is a good quality...better than the "Obama right or wrong" crowd who are still under a hypnotic spell.
The Iraq War in terms of international and domestic law. UN treaties we were party to allowed no military attacks without approval from the Security Council. A treaty ratified by the US Senate which carries the force of law.
On September 16, 2004 Secretary-General of the United Nations Kofi Annan, speaking on the invasion, said, "I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN Charter. From our point of view, from the charter point of view, it was illegal."
If the U.S supplied a supporting role under Bush to enforce a no-fly zone by bombing certain military targets without sending ground troops in the media would not have bashed him. Hell the media supported the initial invasion of Iraq...
Regardless, the situation is not even REMOTELY close to Iraq. Ground troops vs no ground troops for starters....
Bush went to Congress - obama didn't. Bus had twice as many in his coalition than obama has. Where is obama getting the money to pay for this?
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They both were/are illegal.
Only if you believe the UN the calls shots in the world.
If the U.S supplied a supporting role under Bush to enforce a no-fly zone by bombing certain military targets without sending ground troops in the media would not have bashed him. Hell the media supported the initial invasion of Iraq...
The USA is leading the attacks,it is responsible for most of the attacks,it is in charge of coordinating the attacks....how is that taking a supporting role exactly?
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Regardless, the situation is not even REMOTELY close to Iraq. Ground troops vs no ground troops for starters....
There were no ground troops in Iraq at the beginning,it was an air war....
“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation,†.
Bush went to Congress - obama didn't. Bus had twice as many in his coalition than obama has. Where is obama getting the money to pay for this?
Only if you believe the UN the calls shots in the world.
Actually Bush didn't exactly go to Congress, he didn't follow what Congress passed.
You do not need to go to Congress to enforce a no-fly zone. We do not have any troops on the ground, nor do we have any indications or evidence that we will have troops on the ground.
Did you notice that the Libya action was taken in furtherance of a UN Security Council resolution specifically authorizing it, while Bush's invasion of Iraq was not?
How many times did Saddam violate the UN Security Council NFZ in Iraq killing NATO forces? That is an act of war.
Iraq War.................................................. .............................Libyan Military Mission
War, complete with ground troops.................................................Not a war, ground troops will not be sent in.
Planned from Bush's first day in office, waiting for an excuse...............Not on President Obama's radar in any way, until asked by our allies
Lied to the American Public about WMDs to gain approval...................Didn't lie to garner support
Protracted war activities including ground troops...............................Short term mission to clear a path for the allies to enforce the NFZ UNANIMOUSLY opposed by the Arab League.....................................Endorsed by the Arab League, 20-2
Seen by Iraqis and the Arab world as occupiers - US flags burned..........Seen as liberators by grateful citizens
No participation by any Arab countries............................................Qatar has already committed 4 planes, UAE also committed to
.................................................. ...........................................involvement in the next few days.
.................................................. ...........................................Jordan, Iraq, and Morocco also in talks about participation.
You want more, or will that suffice?
Can you read the future? I thought not, so don't count your chickens before they hatch. Ground troops WILL be sent in. It is inevitable. You can't protect people on the ground from the air without killing them.
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