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View Poll Results: Obama and Libya, will you still support his re-election in '12?
Yes 26 45.61%
No 31 54.39%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-21-2011, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Excuse me if I misinterpreted your position. It appears you like, at least 60% of the time, war in general, no matter which party is behind it..

You're not a hypocrite...you're a warmonger.

And btw, Afghanistan, like it or not, is now Obama's war..
What's with applying percentages? I can manipulate those percentages by going back further in history and adding more wars to the list. What the hell does that prove? Not a damn thing.

I suggest you have a gross misunderstanding of the term 'warmonger' if you believe supporting it when it's right and opposing it when it's wrong falls under that definition.

As for whose war Afghanistan is, you're free to call it Obama's war, but that doesn't make it true. It was waged by George W. Bush, so it's his war. Obama is in there trying to make it successful. Sadly, it's probably going to descend into chaos anyway. That still doesn't mean we were wrong to go in there and root out the perpetrators of a massive terrorist attack against us on our soil. I don't think anyone disagrees with that, so why you're trying to use it as a weapon against me is a mystery.
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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And btw, Afghanistan, like it or not, is now Obama's war..
IIRC, wrong or right, candidate Obama was pretty clear about his desire to accelerate the effort in Afghanistan.
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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President Obama has not created the challenges he's faced squarely in office. Those were others' doings. I admire his moving toward them in the spirit of making the world a better place for everyone involved.
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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What's with applying percentages? I can manipulate those percentages by going back further in history and adding more wars to the list. What the hell does that prove? Not a damn thing.

I suggest you have a gross misunderstanding of the term 'warmonger' if you believe supporting it when it's right and opposing it when it's wrong falls under that definition.

As for whose war Afghanistan is, you're free to call it Obama's war, but that doesn't make it true. It was waged by George W. Bush, so it's his war. Obama is in there trying to make it successful. Sadly, it's probably going to descend into chaos anyway. That still doesn't mean we were wrong to go in there and root out the perpetrators of a massive terrorist attack against us on our soil. I don't think anyone disagrees with that, so why you're trying to use it as a weapon against me is a mystery.
I've already supplied the definition of warmonger, but here it is again:

noun
a person who advocates, endorses, or tries to precipitate war


Warmonger | Define Warmonger at Dictionary.com

Looks to me like you fit that definition just fine..

As for attacking you...you brought that upon yourself by suggesting that those who would no longer support Obama because of Libya were "ignorant" and "shortsighted"

Mystery cleared up?
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I've already supplied the definition of warmonger...
But in a derogatory sense.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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President Obama has not created the challenges he's faced squarely in office. Those were others' doings. I admire his moving toward them in the spirit of making the world a better place for everyone involved.
Best. Apologist. Posting. Today.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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When the USA joined the allies in WWII, was it war mongering?
Japan and Germany declared war on America and sank her warships and those conducting trans-Atlantic commerce.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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Lybia wants a new Muslim leader.

Give them ours.

2 problems solved.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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When the USA joined the allies in WWII, was it war mongering?
After the formation of the Axis powers and then Pearl Harbor, I'd say it was more like self defense..

Perhaps you're privy to some information I'm just not aware of....just when did Libya attack us?
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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I've already supplied the definition of warmonger, but here it is again:

noun
a person who advocates, endorses, or tries to precipitate war


Warmonger | Define Warmonger at Dictionary.com

Looks to me like you fit that definition just fine..

As for attacking you...you brought that upon yourself by suggesting that those who would no longer support Obama because of Libya were "ignorant" and "shortsighted"

Mystery cleared up?
I see, so pointing out that deciding not to vote for President Obama a year and a half from now, based on current military actions you may disagree with, is both ignorant (as in uninformed) and shortsighted (as in, we don't even have an outcome yet), is akin to applying a label to me that you think is insulting or hurtful. Got ya.
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