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Old 03-23-2011, 10:44 AM
 
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So what? The founding fathers lived in a society where slavery existed. What is the point?
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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Slave owning was not considered a bad thing. It was a 5000 year old universally accepted means of insuring that labor and real estate stay concentrated in certain families. I might ad that many of the early Abolitionist were Clergy who were dismissed from the Church for advocating on behalf of equality for Blacks. So even the Church thought this was an idea situation for blacks. Many Whites who advocated for ending slavery were tortured, jailed, or killed by mobs consisting of the elite classes,ie., Lawyers, Politicians, Doctors , Businessmen.
History is repeating itself because the same elite classes are making sure we have 20 million people in this country who don't have labor rights.
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Thomas Jefferson had no problem "owning" his lover (who was also his wife's half sister) Sally Hemings.

Helen F.M. Leary: Thomas Jefferson & Sally Hemings Research on Vimeo
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:56 AM
 
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Slavery was a horrible institution, but I don't think it's fair to judge previous generations by today's standards. Society around the world was very different then than it is now. It's very common to hear the behavior of the younger generation explained as being influenced by the society they grow up in - which is true. The same holds true for our ancestors.
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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The founding fathers were progressive. Although some of them may have owned slaves, they oppossed it, and they hoped that this country would find a way to flourish without depending on slavery.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRJCm...e_gdata_player
It was a different time. There really is nothing more to say about it except that it proves folks are a product of their environment, regardless of their own ideas.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Brazil, Cuba, and many island in the Carribean had slavery too and for a longer period than the US.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:12 PM
 
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We can ALL thank Muslims for starting the slavery tradition with Africans.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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Slavery was a horrible institution, but I don't think it's fair to judge previous generations by today's standards. Society around the world was very different then than it is now. It's very common to hear the behavior of the younger generation explained as being influenced by the society they grow up in - which is true. The same holds true for our ancestors.
I think this position is a cop-out. If slavery wasn't considered a bad thing, why were people opposed to it? Why did many die in their effort to abolish it? IMO, morality is not a 20th century invention.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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We can ALL thank Muslims for starting the slavery tradition with Africans.
Thank them or condemn them?

And this thread is about the FF and their position on slavery. Why must every discussion about slavery include posters saying "Well other people did it too!". It's tiring.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:23 PM
 
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Well, they didn't think up the idea of slavery. It was a worldwide problem then and that's all the knew.

At the time it was NOT a problem. It was the way the world worked. Slavery still exists today in parts of the world. It is part of nature.
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