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Old 03-27-2011, 07:42 AM
 
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Moore = fat, money grubbing, Socialist and will do anything to make a buck off the agony of America!
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Old 03-27-2011, 07:49 AM
 
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This is the typical rant of liberals, as told to them by thier handlers-

Wealthy people only became wealthy because they-

1. inherited their money
2. They stole thier money
3. They cheated or achieved thier money via dishonest means

The corollary of this is-

1. You cannot be rich unless your parents were rich
2. If you are honest, you cannot become rich
3. The only thing that prevents YOU from becoming rich is because you are a virtuous, ethical person.


This "logic" is the comfortable refuge of losers everywhere. They do not have to feel bad about themselves, as they are honest, hard working people and therefore can never become wealthy in this "rigged game". My neighborhood is full of wealthy self made men who were not born rich, worked hard, and never committed crimes on the way to wealth. Unlike you, they did not rationalize failure, but were undeterred and moved along. The fact of the matter is that the MINORITY of "the rich" inherited thier money. The MAJORITY are self made men and women who left whining to the losers, worked hard, and achieved thier goals.

It is simply amazing that libs think this way. But then again, rationalizaton has always been the refuge of the under achiever.
Well said!!!!
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Old 03-27-2011, 07:54 AM
 
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Yes, it was.
That is the mantra of the lemmings.
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Old 03-27-2011, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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So only people who create wealth have any value? You imply that you don't want to foot the bill for others, well, you foot the bill for the wealthy who did nothing moral to achieve their wealth. Why does it make you feel bad to foot the bill for lazy people when the amount you have left was already diminished by the wealthy that stole from you? It's not lazy poor people who are the only bad guys. It's also the wealthy people who tilted the table towards themselves and now laugh at you because you're not paying attention. You're blaming the guy next to you instead of the obvious culprit!

Since the poor and lazy are your enemies, do you know why they are lazy? I already told you part of the reason why they are poor, but why are they lazy? Do they do it just to spite you? I ask because you appear to take their actions personally. No, they do it because they truly believe that they have no power. No one listens to them. The wealthy have made it a dog-eat-dog world and millions of rational people don't want to participate in that. Why bother? Why work your fingers to the bone when someone else can make 10 to the 9th what you make? Why contribute to a system that says one person is worth more than all the others combined? Where's the motivation in that? Are we supposed to work hard for that lottery chance that we'll be lucky enough to join those other people at the top? I think not. The permanently poor (and deliberately uneducated) have been screwed for so long there is no need for them to feel bad that they are mooching off each other. They are utterly convinced they have no chance in hell of climbing out of the boiling water that's killing them. Demonizing them like you do only adds to the problem.

Michael Moore is correct. The rich ripped all of us off and now sit on their wealth with no intention of adopting a moral compass. BUT, the poor are also to blame for letting the imbalance go this far. Our situation was created by all of us. Every participant played his/her part.

Now, let's change this system. Let's use the ideas that Michael Moore and many others have generated to implement change. Obviously, moving forward without changing anything is certain death. I envision a middle class that is about 80-90% of the population. There is no zero, no one is worthless. And there should be an upper bound, for no one is truly worth more than millions of others. We contribute to a collective whether we realize it or not. The dog-eat-dog situation we think is real was just an illusion imposed to distract us from the fact that we were used and abused (keep 'em fighting against each other, divide and conquer). Now, let's invent a system where everyone accepts that we are in the same boat even if we can't see the ocean from our seats. Let's put UNITED back in our country's name.
I never said I was against the poor lets get that very very clear!!! I believe the government calls people that are making 25 thousand dollars a year poor !! I don't believe that is poor!! ITS not good but not poor! go to Mexico and you will see some poor people.I don't see people like that hear in America! the life of one is not worth more then a million other ones,you are right. but what does wealth has to do with this? nothing! we have equal opportunity to do with our life what we want and the outcome of our doings should not be compare to the value of our lives.weather you are rich or poor. your view of poor people being the only one suffering as if in boiling water is ridiculous, there are very rich people that may feel that way also. you see money does not necessarily makes you happy. and you and Moore think it will make everyone happy! that is insane!! , the rich against the poor if that is not divide and conquer! what is? why cant we all get a seat with a view of the ocean? is that not inequality? or should they raise the walls of the boat so that no one can experiance the great veiw of the ocean, who loses there? you and moores view of the world is very silly, stupid silly
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Old 03-27-2011, 09:52 AM
 
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I can tell you what part of the TOS is keeping me from telling you what I really think about your posts, that good enough?
I just used the same standards you set..
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Why of course these rich liberals can spew their socialist views.
They don't live what they preach..they are "above all that"..right ?

They are hypocrites at their finest. If more folks saw that then Moore wouldn't be as rich as he is.
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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He is right. Wealth should be proportionally more even in this country. We can't thrive if only 10% of the population have the wealth.
Michael who? I really don't care what that hypocritical idiot has to say about anything.
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Isn't he just as entitled to accumlate $$$ by hoodwinking the masses as Coulter, Limbaugh, Beck et al?

Yes. As long as it's legal, he has every right to convince the masses to give him their hard earned dollars..... just like Al Gore.
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:23 PM
 
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Moore = fat, money grubbing, Socialist and will do anything to make a buck off the agony of America!
What about the fat money grubbing greedy CEO who reaps the profits both coming and going and then socializes the losses? And since when is a man who made a movie about how capitalism could be improved suddenly a socialist? He wants quality health care for everyone in this great nation and finds it's actually better in socialist countries than here and that means he's bad?

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Why of course these rich liberals can spew their socialist views.
They don't live what they preach..they are "above all that"..right ?

They are hypocrites at their finest. If more folks saw that then Moore wouldn't be as rich as he is.
Michael Moore lives what he preaches and he, just like everyone else, doesn't have to live in a slum to accomplish that. I know that even if he lived on the streets, there would be masses of ignorant people who still wouldn't see that he's on our side. If find it ridiculous that the right finds rich liberals so disgusting. I guess they only think conservatives deserve their wealth.

Neither one of you know what you are talking about.
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Old 03-27-2011, 12:28 PM
 
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I never said I was against the poor lets get that very very clear!!! I believe the government calls people that are making 25 thousand dollars a year poor !! I don't believe that is poor!! ITS not good but not poor! go to Mexico and you will see some poor people.I don't see people like that hear in America! the life of one is not worth more then a million other ones,you are right. but what does wealth has to do with this? nothing! we have equal opportunity to do with our life what we want and the outcome of our doings should not be compare to the value of our lives.weather you are rich or poor. your view of poor people being the only one suffering as if in boiling water is ridiculous, there are very rich people that may feel that way also. you see money does not necessarily makes you happy. and you and Moore think it will make everyone happy! that is insane!! , the rich against the poor if that is not divide and conquer! what is? why cant we all get a seat with a view of the ocean? is that not inequality? or should they raise the walls of the boat so that no one can experiance the great veiw of the ocean, who loses there? you and moores view of the world is very silly, stupid silly
Well, this former Hoosier should probably explain to this current Hoosier where s/he didn't understand my post, but I'm just not going to bother except to say that both Michael Moore and I hardly believe that money makes people happy. A nanosecond of American life would be enough evidence to prove that wrong.
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