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Old 05-18-2008, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Unlike the WWII Generation of patriotic, selfless, courageous, and hard-working Americans, the Baby Boomers were the complete opposite. And I am specifically talking about the Hippie types who were calling soldiers "baby-killers" while the vast majority of GIs never did such a thing, it was all Jane Fonda propaganda. These Baby Boomers will certainly be hated for such despicable atrocities.

So I must make the folliwng asertion: The Baby Boomer generation has without any doubt screwed up America so bad, that if it wasn't for Ronald Reagan in 1980, the US would be begging Mexico for jobs (and probably food) now. The US was headed to collapse and a defeat in the Cold War because of some Baby Boomers.

Let's look at some of the bad things the Boomers have done to screw up America (the top 5):

1. Abortion. A liberal idea pushed by Boomers in the 1960s. I cannot remember the final tallies of dead babies, but the last time I looked was something like 17 million dead since the 1960s.

2. Prohibition of voluntary school prayer in schools. Now look at our kids smoking crack at age 10 and having kids at age 14. Great job pulling "horrible religion" out of schools and FORBIDING Bibles in schools! Our kids 'thank you' for that!

3. High taxes which almost bankrupted the US economy and caused major stagnation from the late 1960s - 1979.

4. Created a "drug culture" in America and allowed AIDS/HIV to become an epidemic during the Boomer's Hippie movement in the 1960s with free sex and out of control drug use, which was largely supported and accepted by the liberals in the 1960s.

5. Their push for Liberalism. The desire to completely destroy/re-make American cultutre as we know it and the desire to transform the USA into a Communist country like Russia or Cuba or China. Thanks to the Boomers, we now have a whole segment of society that despises the USA, blames the USA for everything in the world, who support and worship brutal dictators like Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Hugo Chavez, etc.

It is a culture of people who are so egoistical, self-centered, God-less, and self-destructive.

The Baby Boomers have really messed up America. I have to agree with SpiritWalker on this one big time.
Sorry, but the baby boomers certainly can't be associated much with the issues that offend you as you mentioned above. The 60's and 70's was a time when most baby boomers were still too young to vote or not in positions of responsibility to make landmark decisions affecting society. Actually, the social decisions, such as legalizing abortion, were made by the generation that came before the baby boomers. I have heard this generation referred to as the heroic architectural generation, and may be truly America's greatest generation. This generation designed and built the great interstate highways, lakes and dams, straightened rivers, great skyscrapers and landed man on the moon. I think these great accomplishments far outweigh any side effects some may find undesirable, though, the Vietnam War, I feel, was one of that generation's biggest mistakes.

Generations since then, including the baby boomer one, have merely come along for the ride while rejecting calls to raise taxes to maintain the great infrastructure that the heroic architectural generation brought us. Funny how they in some way found all the tax money needed to build all that.

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Old 06-04-2008, 02:27 AM
 
Location: County Mayo Descendant
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i dont know how we can escape the consequences by blaming. can we understand what we did wrong and then do better? good times (last 50 years) produced a lot of false teachings and beliefs. we thought cars houses apts cheap gas club med & easy sex, was forever. it wasn't. we still hold to some false beliefs. suffering will change that. 38% of young people under 30 live at home. we are goin back where we came from.
LOL easy sex, maybe for you I never went to a club med. Those 38% living at home still? Geez I started working at 16, it was time to leave home at 19. Not all but lots of friends have their 21+ still at home, they don't even look for a job, I hope the ones at home with jobs have money saved, they should have ALOT SAVED!!!!

Oh I shouldn't have made that last remark, couldn't help it, its partly true, no offense, but I believe I got that info from that book "the millionaire next door" that book teaches those who don't know
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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I'd like to hear boomers answer- in hindsight-
Of all the things depression era offered, and you questioned, and railed against, and completely rejected- can you admit at this point in your lives that there were some things your own parents were dead right about, and you should have listened?

Are there some things you grew up with that you regret not providing for your own kids?

Did you ever go clear? lol
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:15 AM
 
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[quote=myselfdotcom;3478782]They completely destroyed social responsibilities and family with their emphasis on individualism.

I'll take individualism over the alternative any day.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:53 AM
 
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Are the "Baby Boomers" with all of our entitled "Me First " attitudes to blame for the impending economic doom( sky high taxes to pay for our luxury among other things) predicted by certain factions? Will our noble efforts of civil rights, tolerance, advances in medicine and science ect. be overshadowed by our tendency to be self centered, greedy, and entitled? How will we be judged ? Will our grandchildren resent us ? I want to hear from Baby Boomers and all other generations. This is an issue that won't go away..............We all need to begin a serious dialogue now. Your help is vital. It could spare much pain in the long run.
Spiritwalker ( no trademark cool, wink or smile on this one)
Many groups can take blame, but most of the blame goes to the liberals.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:21 PM
 
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Default Boomer, bad influence

What child of a famous movie star carried the tradition of his/her parent?
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Everyone was introduced to the wonders of "consumer credit" AKA debt.
Debt knows no boundaries so boomers and Gen X/Y and anyone else can participate.

Consumer credit makes you feel like you have more money than you do.
Consumer credit makes you feel like you don't have to wait and save for that shiny new toy.
As long as you make minimum payments you can have as much consumer credit as you want.

Now think long and hard..who created that consumer credit to begin with ?

THAT is who to blame.
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Old 10-16-2008, 04:48 AM
 
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You want us to blame cavemen??? They can be a little sensitive about that sort of thing, yunno...
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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From "they are stealing YOUR social security " to "they have ruined everything" the righties are searching for yet another "bogeyman" and they have found it in the "boomers".

From Britt's 14 points of Fascism:

3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause

The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and “terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.
I agree with this. This blame game is a straw man. Every generation produces advances, and makes its mistakes. Every generation has its share of good people and evil people. We need not to fall for this "divide and conquer" strategy employed by those in power.

HappyTexan - now you're talking. And you have to go waaaay farther back than the Boomers' rise to prominence to find the answer. And it certainly wasn't an entire generation who backed the creation of this mess. It was a group of a few, very powerful men.
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Old 10-16-2008, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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People are greedy---deal with it. One way humanity has dealt with it was to form governments of the people, wresting wealth away from greedy royal families and popes. America has lagged behind the rest of the developed world, in that a great deal of power is still vested in the hands of the greedy. This freedom to exercise greed has left America more vulnerable to the ravages of greed. It is unfair to blame it on greed, since greed is a constant. The blame should be placed on the underlying philosophy of tolerating and even rewarding greed, when there is the available mechanism of regulation to hold greed in check.
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