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Old 03-29-2011, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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Originally Posted by Katiana View Post
Utility and sales taxes are local taxes.

Please provide a link to that last statement. My taxes didn't go up.

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The first of the anti-Obama Tea Party protests happened in the very early days of his administration, before any new taxes were passed.
The deficit has tripled under President Obama. He added a trillion dollars (at least) to government spending on health "care". He's spending a 100 million a day in Libya. He's prinitng money and flooding the monetary supply which is causing inflation. (This is why you are paying more for clothing, food and gasoline).

Just because you don't call it a tax increase doesn't mean you didn't get one.

 
Old 03-29-2011, 03:16 AM
 
Location: Europe
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And there are some, not all, democrats that can't stomanch a woman president. They had the chance to elect Hillary Clinton and passed in favor of a politically connected wealthy half-white man. They attacked Sarah Palin with a force never seen before.

It's quite clear that Democrats can't stomach the thought of a woman president. WTH, they only nominated Ferrero because they knew she would lose. It's not they ever nominate a woman when she has a chance of winning.

Can you admit that reality?
Most Republicans can't stomach Palin as President. Your post is a big fail.
 
Old 03-29-2011, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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Most Republicans can't stomach Palin as President. Your post is a big fail.
You should look at poll numbers for McCain before he picked Palin and after he picked Palin.

If democrats liked woman the would have nominated Hillary Clinton instead of the wealthy males Obama and Biden.

Your post is a big fail.
 
Old 03-29-2011, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Europe
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Originally Posted by OhioIstheBest View Post
You should look at poll numbers for McCain before he picked Palin and after he picked Palin.

If democrats liked woman the would have nominated Hillary Clinton instead of the wealthy males Obama and Biden.

Your post is a big fail.
You still live in 2008? Too bad her numbers have slipped since then; her numbers have slipped when Republicans realized what an idiot she is.
 
Old 03-29-2011, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Europe
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To the OP: Most people know when the Tea Party movement started, but they realize that the movement has been hijacked by neo-cons. Even Ron Paul sees that.

A Tea Party Foreign Policy - By Ron Paul | Foreign Policy

I opened a thread about that months ago: //www.city-data.com/forum/polit...l#post16038216


What I'd like to know: Where is your proof that most lefties believe what you claimed in the OP?
 
Old 03-29-2011, 08:22 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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I know most lefties believe that the Tea Party they see and hear about today started as a Fox news funded racist protest against the first "black" president but do you really know how the modern Tea Party started?

Did you know that the Tea Party started as a group of people who supported Ron Paul during the 2008 presidential election cycle? Did you know that the Tea Party got it's name from the Dec 16th 2007 Tea Party tax protest that was held in Boston MA to support Ron Paul's 2008 presidential run? Did you know that Tea Party supporters donated more money to Ron Paul's campaign in one day than any other political campaign in history? Do you know that before Palin, Fox or the Koch brothers were ever involved there were millions of people supporting the Ron Paul Tea Party as part of the Ron Paul revolution.

Have you ever seen this video?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKZmIzEMUN8

What about this?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG_OwTthS-E

Before you attack this thread and claim that Tea Party supporters are all racist try educating yourself and realize how it all started instead of what it has become today years later. The Tea Party you see today and attack today has very little to do with the Ron Paul Tea Party supporters who started the entire movement.
I have stated this many times. But it is todays tea party that is active and getting all the attention and that tea party is very much because of a black president.
 
Old 03-29-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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I have stated this many times. But it is todays tea party that is active and getting all the attention and that tea party is very much because of a black president.
Right, we have people here saying that the tea party as we've known it is exactly the same as the tea party that had a protest in 1977, and then didn't have another until 1993, and then didn't have another until 2007. That stretches the bounds of credibility beyond the breaking point.

I'm not convinced it's a racial backlash, though I'm sure there are some who are (see birthers, ugly rhetoric from Mark Williams and other [former] tea party leaders). It's really a purely partisan response to the Obama administration, in many cases bankrolled by large conservative groups led by people like the Koch brothers and Dick Armey.

I mean, how often do we hear how tea partiers were never Bush supporters? I find that to be almost certainly full of crap. If half the tea partiers who claim to have not been Bush supporters had actually not voted for Bush, then President Al Gore would've finished his two terms by 2008; that or President Kerry would be a lame duck by now for somebody like VP Edwards (or maybe VP Obama, given that Edwards would've almost certainly resigned in disgrace by now).
 
Old 03-29-2011, 08:48 AM
 
Location: NJ
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'that tea party is very much because of a black president.'

Candidate Obama had no demonstrated experience or accomplishments to be considered for the office of presidency.

It was an historic novelty election that brought him to office. The 'dancing with the stars' mentality of the white and black electorate has come back to haunt them.

This man is so incompetent it is a wonder he hasn't been impeached let alone been awarded a nobel peace prize for no demonstrated accomplishment.

To attribute race as the issue for the tea party is blatantly racist in itself where an entire group of people are characterized as being of one mind on an issue. No emperical evidence to make such a statement exists except in the minds of the political strategists. Apply that same standard to any race or ethnicity and you would be labeled a racist by your own standards.

Was that strategy not revealed in the emails generated by that august group of 'journalists' to accuse any of obama's opponents as racist?

Accusations of racisim as a political strategy have been mitigated by overuse and inappropraite application.
 
Old 03-29-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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FWIW: the original Boston Tea Party was not protesting a tax but a British government parliamentary monopoly that was granted to the East India Company for the entire Tea Trade. This monopoly not only let the privately owned company set tea prices but forbade anyone else from trading, shopping or selling teas anywhere the British controlled. No wonder the Yankee traders protested. They were being put out of business by a rival monopoly.

The current Tea Party is so blinded by taxes they forgot to protest the monopolies that dominate our economy and own our politicians.
 
Old 03-29-2011, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Reality
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FWIW: the original Boston Tea Party was not protesting a tax but a British government parliamentary monopoly that was granted to the East India Company for the entire Tea Trade. This monopoly not only let the privately owned company set tea prices but forbade anyone else from trading, shopping or selling teas anywhere the British controlled. No wonder the Yankee traders protested. They were being put out of business by a rival monopoly.

The current Tea Party is so blinded by taxes they forgot to protest the monopolies that dominate our economy and own our politicians.
That's not entirely true, we are against monopolies like public labor unions as much as high taxes, we protest against both.
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