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Old 03-29-2011, 08:04 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I figure the air strikes are being directed by AWACS aircraft which BTW ARE NOT on the ground. You?
No,I would think they are being directed the same way as in Afghanistan,by Spec-Ops forces on the ground.
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:08 AM
 
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These 2500 will give us a total of approx. 4,000 offshore plus the several hundred SpecForce guys who have been there in Eastern Libya for weeks now. Add the addition of C-130 gunships and A 10 Warthogs this week which are for Ground war NOT no-fly zone work and its all going Ground war soon.

US-Led Libyan Ground Assault Planned
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That link is trash
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:08 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The MEU for LeJeune is a Marine Expeditionary Unit,it is consists of ground troops as well as air elements.

Marine Expeditionary Unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Still doesn't put 2500 preparing to deploy in NC on the ground in Libya, does it?
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:12 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Still doesn't put 2500 preparing to deploy in NC on the ground in Libya, does it?
No...but if there was never going to be a need for ground troops in Libya,why send them to sit in the Med offshore?

Would you be at all surprised if in the near future 'something' happens and we are 'forced' to send in ground troops?
Be truthful now.

I wouldn't be shocked at all,it would be a plausible excuse most likely but would end up not being the truth.
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:16 AM
 
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No,I would think they are being directed the same way as in Afghanistan,by Spec-Ops forces on the ground.
More likely than not they are being directed by drones. It's far safer compared to having groups on the ground and you have a hell of lot less explaining to do when things go wrong. Keep in mind that Unmanned Aerial Vehicle capabilities have improved dramatically in the past ten years. You do not need a human being to put a laser designator on a target.

Also as of now there are no ground operations announced and they would fall outside of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973, if the ground operation did not involve the protection of civilians from Gadhaffi's military forces.

If ground forces are needed a much more plausible method is for the lead rebel organization to finance private contractors or mercenaries for training and organization that makes it an operation totally disconnected from any other sovereign nation.
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:21 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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No...but if there was never going to be a need for ground troops in Libya,why send them to sit in the Med offshore?
Would you be at all surprised if in the near future 'something' happens and we are 'forced' to send in ground troops?
Be truthful now.

I wouldn't be shocked at all,it would be a plausible excuse most likely but would end up not being the truth.[/quote]

That's not the point, why start a thread with a blatantly misleading statement as was done here?

Nothing coming out of Washington surprises me any more, IF Congress votes to start another ground war I hope we put the whole lot on trial.

But as I've said, that doesn't make a baseless statement any more accurate.
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Old 03-29-2011, 08:25 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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More likely than not they are being directed by drones. It's far safer compared to having groups on the ground and you have a hell of lot less explaining to do when things go wrong. Keep in mind that Unmanned Aerial Vehicle capabilities have improved dramatically in the past ten years. You do not need a human being to put a laser designator on a target.
Could be,do you think there are NO US forces of any kind in Libya?

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Also as of now there are no ground operations announced and they would fall outside of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973, if the ground operation did not involve the protection of civilians from Gadhaffi's military forces.
We are already outside the resolution terms,we are actively assisting one side in attacking the other.Oddly enough,the side we are helping and our bombs are falling on cities,one would think civilians would be killed in such attacks....

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If ground forces are needed a much more plausible method is for the lead rebel organization to finance private contractors or mercenaries for training and organization that makes it an operation totally disconnected from any other sovereign nation.
Ahhh,that is one way for us to get involved in the ground war,except I do believe the UN resolution has an embargo in place to stop mercenaries from being used....
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Old 03-29-2011, 09:38 AM
 
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More likely than not they are being directed by drones. It's far safer compared to having groups on the ground and you have a hell of lot less explaining to do when things go wrong. Keep in mind that Unmanned Aerial Vehicle capabilities have improved dramatically in the past ten years. You do not need a human being to put a laser designator on a target.

Also as of now there are no ground operations announced and they would fall outside of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973, if the ground operation did not involve the protection of civilians from Gadhaffi's military forces.

If ground forces are needed a much more plausible method is for the lead rebel organization to finance private contractors or mercenaries for training and organization that makes it an operation totally disconnected from any other sovereign nation.
They are being directed by Special Forces laser designating targets. Someone from the military community confirmed this the other day on the news. It's the only way to make sure you are getting the right targets.
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:25 AM
 
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I understand you're a righty and feel compelled to buy into any baseless allegations knocking Obama but anyway you cut it alleging there are 2500 from Camp LeJeune on the ground when they are in fact reported as preparing to deploy is just a load of crap.

I figure the air strikes are being directed by AWACS aircraft which BTW ARE NOT on the ground. You?

Baseless allegations? Such as entering into a war without congressional approval when we don't even know who's on the side that we are fighting for? There are special forces on the ground right now. They will be joined by more troops soon. Just wait and see. Obama has really stepped in a pile this time....
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:26 AM
 
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The US is likely to be in breach of the UN security council's arms embargo on Libya if it sends weapons to the rebels, experts in international law have warned.
After Hillary Clinton said it would be legal to send arms to support the uprising, lawyers analysing the terms of the UN's 26 February arms embargo said it would require a change in the terms for it not to breach international law.
"The embargo appears to cover everybody in the conflict which means you can't supply arms to rebels," said Philippe Sands QC, professor of international law at University College London.
Arming Libya rebels not allowed by UN resolutions, legal experts warn US | World news | guardian.co.uk
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