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Old 03-30-2011, 10:38 AM
 
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I do not understand the fuss.

After all, after the OPEC oil embargo our politicians made it our number one priority to end our dependence on foreign oil.

Of course, skeptics tried to say that since the huge oil companies owned the right to drill for oil in most foreign countries, it would never happen. Much more profitable for Shell, Exxon, etc., to extract oil in other countries (which tend to not have issues with paying royalties to landowners, save for paying the ruling government, or with pesky enviornmental concerns) and then sell it in the USA.

Anyway, although I have not checked my figures for some 35 years, no doubt our dependence on foreign oil is way, way, way down from 1974. I mean, for what purpose would those 1974 politicians have lied?
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Is this why he push thru a loan for Brizil to drill offshore while doidn everythig he can to stop US compoanies form doig the ame?Its like this guy is wanting US comanies to fail like GM and Chrysler so the taxayers can take them over.One has to remmeber that we have only so mcuh oil and mnay sources such as that can only be used at high porices same as the capped well that are alweays talked about. That is because they cost too much to prodcue and only prodcue very low amounts per day.The reason to pordcue what we can is that the mney otherwise goes over seas and that it alos produces jobs here ;not that we are going to suddenly prodcue enough oil here.We are in fact stuck with crude for the foresseable future and with a administration that is anti-businesss and especailly anti-US oil by agenda.He is goig right along with what Gore wrote i his book of redcuing oiolusage by raisng prices from makig it even more expensive than it really should be.
Just wondering, do they still publish newspapers in Texas?
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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Just wondering, do they still publish newspapers in Texas?

I can answer that: No.

Nor do they teach spelling in schools anymore, it seems.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:48 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What an ideologue this guy is!! AAAAhh!! Bio-fuels??? We are are sitting on top of millions of gallons of oil and just REFUSES to go get it!! Is he trying to destroy us??

Why is he holding so fast to that left wing ideology why we desperately need the energy??
And what idiots people are to believe this actually says he is going to cut oil imports. If people are too damn stupid to understand the difference between reducing our dependence and cutting our imports this country truly is doomed.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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LOL @ people thinking hydrogen is an energy source
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:02 AM
 
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LOL @ people thinking hydrogen is an energy source

Hmm. I thought that hydrogen is the most common element in the universe (atomic number 1) and that it is the main source of energy burned by 'stars' or 'suns'. I believe our own 'Sun' is a mass of hydrogen.

Anyway, when the Hindenburg burned, it was certainly burning hydrogen. Makes for a good fire, at least.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Hmm. I thought that hydrogen is the most common element in the universe (atomic number 1) and that it is the main source of energy burned by 'stars' or 'suns'. I believe our own 'Sun' is a mass of hydrogen.

Anyway, when the Hindenburg burned, it was certainly burning hydrogen. Makes for a good fire, at least.
Hydrogen is not harnessed like natural gas. It is a carrier of energy, not a source.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Shale gas exploration is booming in the US, many jobs are created in Texas and Pennsylvania.
But the US should use its oil resources too I'm agree about that.
Apparently Ohio has oil, this state can revive
Good luck with all that union power up there. They've managed to kill more than one industry you know.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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Hydrogen is not harnessed like natural gas. It is a carrier of energy, not a source.

I am not a scientist. However, I believe it is the primary source of energy for the Sun (through some type of nuclear fusion).

The Sun l* Sun Facts and images.

Composition of the Sun

I admit, I do not understand exactly what a 'carrier' of energy would be. I suppose that copper can carry energy (electricity).
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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What an ideologue this guy is!! AAAAhh!! Bio-fuels??? We are are sitting on top of millions of gallons of oil and just REFUSES to go get it!! Is he trying to destroy us??

Why is he holding so fast to that left wing ideology why we desperately need the energy??
In a word, yes. The goal of the Democrat Party for the last 43 years has been to completely and utterly destroy all US energy production and acquisition. It goes far beyond Obama or Al Gore, and includes all forms of energy, not just oil. Before Obama, Clinton locked up trillions of cubic feet of coal in Utah with the Antiquities Act and vetoed the opening of ANWR to drilling. Before Clinton, Carter started the "alternative energy" lunacy to replace oil, coal, and nuclear power. Prior to Carter, Democrats were spewing their man-made Global Cooling hoax, as justification for the EPA (which a Democrat controlled Congress created, not Nixon), which reached its peak while Carter was President.

Obama is just the latest Democrat to advocate for the destruction of the US.
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