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Old 04-02-2011, 03:04 PM
 
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Its one thing to have radioactive fallout around Japan... but now the radioactive isotopes is in the water and spreading... does anyone want to eat fish anymore? I wonder what kind of ecological disaster is going to happen in the water... first the oil, now the nuclear waste?? 30+ years of radiation in the water?? Is Japan going to have to pay all the industry of the world if it affects the world's industry?? I heard liberals say its okay to attack countries who threaten the US, are we going to nuke Japan now?

Officials struggle to plug leak at Japan nuclear plant - CNN.com
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Old 04-02-2011, 03:14 PM
 
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Well, ignoring the fact that your post (intentionally) doesn't make any sense, one interesting thing about the fish is that the current big problem with fish is mercury, which is the result of coal power, not nuclear.
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Old 04-02-2011, 03:26 PM
 
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Well, ignoring the fact that your post (intentionally) doesn't make any sense, one interesting thing about the fish is that the current big problem with fish is mercury, which is the result of coal power, not nuclear.
I suppose when the radiation eventually and it is EVENTUAL when it hits US waters... it isn't a problem for you?? Obvioiusly, you are too short-sighted (intentionally) to see the ramifications of 30+ years of radiation in the water (water isn't going to stay in one place for the next 30 years), that means 60 years it will be 25% assuming it is fixed now... if you don't think its a threat, go swim in the Japan's water and see how it feels once those waters reaches US shores... The ocean isn't going to "filter" out radiation like oil... mercury may be a problem, but that problem is mainly with pregnancy and young kids and can be avoided... radiation is a problem for everyone and cannot simply be avoided...
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Old 04-02-2011, 03:28 PM
 
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I suppose when the radiation eventually and it is EVENTUAL when it hits US waters... it isn't a problem for you?? Obvioiusly, you are too short-sighted (intentionally) to see the ramifications of 30+ years of radiation in the water (water isn't going to stay in one place for the next 30 years), that means 60 years it will be 25% assuming it is fixed now... if you don't think its a threat, go swim in the Japan's water and see how it feels once those waters reaches US shores... The ocean isn't going to "filter" out radiation like oil... mercury may be a problem, but that problem is mainly with pregnancy and can be avoided... radiation is a problem for everyone and cannot simply be avoided...
I have no idea how nuking Japan might make things better???
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Old 04-02-2011, 03:28 PM
 
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I suppose when the radiation eventually and it is EVENTUAL when it hits US waters... it isn't a problem for you?? Obvioiusly, you are too short-sighted (intentionally) to see the ramifications of 30+ years of radiation in the water (water isn't going to stay in one place for the next 30 years), that means 60 years it will be 25% assuming it is fixed now... if you don't think its a threat, go swim in the Japan's water and see how it feels once those waters reaches US shores... The ocean isn't going to "filter" out radiation like oil... mercury may be a problem, but that problem is mainly with pregnancy and can be avoided... radiation is a problem for everyone and cannot simply be avoided...
What's your solution? So far you've suggested adding MORE radiation to the mix...
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Old 04-02-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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Its one thing to have radioactive fallout around Japan... but now the radioactive isotopes is in the water and spreading... does anyone want to eat fish anymore? I wonder what kind of ecological disaster is going to happen in the water... first the oil, now the nuclear waste?? 30+ years of radiation in the water?? Is Japan going to have to pay all the industry of the world if it affects the world's industry?? I heard liberals say its okay to attack countries who threaten the US, are we going to nuke Japan now?

Officials struggle to plug leak at Japan nuclear plant - CNN.com

It's a good thing that you're not asking this question directly to Barack Hussein, because he wouldn't know.

He'd ask Hillary, and she wouldn't know.

Then they'd ask Biden, and we all know that he wouldn't know. It's a good day if he can tie his shoes.



But, if we had to attack a great ally, I think that smart bombs would be a good start.
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Old 04-02-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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A few nukes should help lower the rad counts, eh? I know that spending our way out of debt is working so well. Same logic.
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Old 04-02-2011, 05:29 PM
 
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Default Let's not panic.

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I suppose when the radiation eventually and it is EVENTUAL when it hits US waters... it isn't a problem for you?? Obvioiusly, you are too short-sighted (intentionally) to see the ramifications of 30+ years of radiation in the water (water isn't going to stay in one place for the next 30 years), that means 60 years it will be 25% assuming it is fixed now... if you don't think its a threat, go swim in the Japan's water and see how it feels once those waters reaches US shores... The ocean isn't going to "filter" out radiation like oil... mercury may be a problem, but that problem is mainly with pregnancy and young kids and can be avoided... radiation is a problem for everyone and cannot simply be avoided...
Can't tell if you're serious, so...

It makes no sense to measure radiation in "years". The interesting question is how much, what materials and how the dispersion (and concentration) will take place.

Interestingly, the case we have for comparison - Chernobyl - had the same two isotopes leaking in high numbers: iodine-131 and cesium-137.

Iodine is a short-lived isotope and a short-lived problem - half-life of eight days, so only minuscule concentrations will meander far from the plant, as it decays into harmless Xenon.

Cesium has a higher half-life - 30 years - so it'll move around. It'll also get very, very diluted, so the risk of getting dosed by simply swimming in the ocean is going to be very, very low. (You will almost certainly get a higher dose by simply being at the beach. The Sun is an unshielded fusion reactor.)

The problem with cesium is that it tends to aggregate in specific plants and animals, sometimes resulting in unacceptable levels once we go high enough in the food chain. For instance, boar in Germany will feed on wild mushrooms, and the mushrooms, for unknown reasons, aggregate high levels of cesium. The end result is boar meat that's unfit for consumption - although, in all fairness, the exposure per steak is comparable to a 5-hour plane trip.

We may see the same thing happen to some sorts of seafood. Time will tell.

(And part of me thinks that certain species of fish have been so overharvested, perhaps a few decades of peace and quiet might do them good.)

No need to over-react. There will be precautions worth taking, nuclear warfare is not one of them.
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Old 04-02-2011, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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sure we should target all the 54 reactors that are still running and ok... yup good idea lets have cause 54 more meltdowns that way russia china and the west coast can get even more radioactive fallout and japan becomes un-inhabitable.

someone is trolling and it is sad because it is such a serious disaster that it really is not funny

we should send the OP to go in and help cool down the reactors if any thing like that happens here he is the first one in to the plant with a garden hose to cool it down
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Old 04-02-2011, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Bike to Surf!
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Yes.
You're right.

There's radiation is in all the fish.
Don't eat them.

Radioactive isotopes are in all the world's water, everywhere! Even in bottled water!
Don't drink any.
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