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You don't have the right to be offended by the way other people live their lives. Unless it causes you direct harm, you need to grow up and live with it, or move someplace better suited for your values.
Gee I wonder why. Maybe because the 19th/20th Century embarassment to Christianity known as fundamentalism continues to spread lies, ignorance, and bigotry at every opportunity?
Maybe if you guys stopped trying to oppress progress and freedom, and stopped trying to legislate your beliefs onto other people who disagree with you, people might not have as big of a problem with religion.
I'm a Messianic Jew, and I'm completely embarassed by the sad excuse for followers of Christ in this country. Christian Fundamentalism is no different than Islamic extremism, or Militant atheism.
Honestly...I'm sorry I even bother to talk to you guys. You're so set on your own hateful agenda.
Uh, in california it turned out to be the majority of californians that supported prop 8.
A very small majority, and the entire thing was funded by the Mormon Church. Majority rules also don't apply in this country.
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Something I'd like to see from american liberals/leftists/assorted marxists learn to tolerate traditional cultures here in america but I'm not going to hold my breath tho.
How do you define "traditional"? Does that mean you advocate returning to polygamy, pedophilia, and bans on interracial marriage since those are the true meanings of "traditional"?
You don't have the right to be offended by the way other people live their lives. Unless it causes you direct harm, you need to grow up and live with it, or move someplace better suited for your values.
Yes, he does. So do I for that matter.
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Gee I wonder why. Maybe because the 19th/20th Century embarassment to Christianity known as fundamentalism continues to spread lies, ignorance, and bigotry at every opportunity?
Says the guy that doesn't believe others have the right to be offended by how others live their lives.
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Maybe if you guys stopped trying to oppress progress and freedom, and stopped trying to legislate your beliefs onto other people who disagree with you, people might not have as big of a problem with religion.
Says the guy who supports laws that allow gay marriage irrespective of how the majority of americans feel about the subject.
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I'm a Messianic Jew, and I'm completely embarassed by the sad excuse for followers of Christ in this country. Christian Fundamentalism is no different than Islamic extremism, or Militant atheism.
So, as a jew, I'm guessing you haven't been paying attention to what your brethern are doing to the palestinians in the name of god these days?
The eye roll probably didn't help. People are very sensitive when they have had hardships and traumatic experiences. It is called PTSD.
It's like how a woman, a Black and a Deaf person would respond -- being hypersensitive to preceived negativity upon their person.
I think in situations like this, a little understanding is called for. Uh, if a gay 'screeches' -- I'd apologize instead of making demands defensively on how people should behave and learn some manners yourself!
Yes, homophobia and heterphobia exist. There's no doubting that! But in your situation, I felt you were just self defensive and a little insensitive about how someone reacted to your eye roll.
But I give you credit for bringing up a good point about reverse discrimination even if I didn't like the way you handled that situation.
If a straight guy even rolls his eyes at a gay much screeching follows. It's tiring seeing these snippy gay fellows making all this noise.
Is it just another version of "minority rules?"
There is a flip side to that argument. My first principle was a lesbian. The fact that she hated men was common knowledge. At about my second year she struck up a relationship with the music teacher, a girl about half her age. Initially, she had been quite rough on the music teacher on her evaluations. She was that way will all of us though. Then, before you could blank an eye they were a couple.
Was your lesbian principal trying to keep the religious kids in your school from practicing their religion? Yes, there are people on both sides who disagree with, and maybe even hate, the other side. But the attempt to legislate opinion is only happening in one direction. I have yet to meet a gay person who is trying to keep the religious from practicing their religion, yet I have met plenty of religious people who want to keep gays from getting married, being legally recognized, adopting, etc. This isn't to say it's all religious people, but the point is there are religious people out there trying to ban gay marriage or make sure it doesn't pass. There aren't any gays out there trying to ban religious worship.
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Complete tolerance or complete acceptance. I fear we shall see neither.
I have the same fear. I don't think it's a very realistic expectation--I was merely explaining why a lot of gays do have that expectation.
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Something I'd like to see from american liberals/leftists/assorted marxists learn to tolerate traditional cultures here in america but I'm not going to hold my breath tho.
It's true there are plenty of gays who can't stand religion, just like there are plenty of religious folks who can't stand gays. But who is taking their opinion and trying to pass laws? Honestly, I have yet to meet a gay person who cares to the point that they would want to shut down churches or anything like that. As far as I'm concerned, the gay community already tolerates traditional cultures because no one's trying to stop traditional cultures from living by their values. They just don't want those cultures to prevent gays from living by their own values.
A very small majority, and the entire thing was funded by the Mormon Church. Majority rules also don't apply in this country.
I disagree, but then I'm a classical liberal not a authoritarian/totalitarian socialist.
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How do you define "traditional"? Does that mean you advocate returning to polygamy, pedophilia, and bans on interracial marriage since those are the true meanings of "traditional"?
You don't have the right to do anything about being offended is my point. Unless someone is causing you direct harm, they can offend you all they want, and you can't do anything about it.
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Says the guy that doesn't believe others have the right to be offended by how others live their lives.
See above.
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Says the guy who supports laws that allow gay marriage irrespective of how the majority of americans feel about the subject.
This isn't a democracy. I don't care if 99.9% of Americans want something. They have no right to oppress the rights of the other .1%. And it's a faulty argument. The majority of Americans supported slavery, denying women rights, and banning interracial marriage. She would re-enact them?
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So, as a jew, I'm guessing you haven't been paying attention to what your brethern are doing to the palestinians in the name of god these days?
The crimes in Israel are due to their political agenda, not their religion. Half of all Jews in Israel are atheist/agnostic. Israel's actions are not primarily in the name of God. And, yes I consider their actions to be morally irresponsible. But it's not primarily a Judaism thing.
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Where did you pull this nonsense from?
