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Old 04-05-2011, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You know for the life of me, I could have sworn Obama signed a fiscal budget into law, but I'll be damned if I could find proof. He's written 3 proposals so far, Congress passed on of them almost unchanged, but I cant find a source to say that he actually signed it into law.

Still waiting for you to tell me why Obama hasnt implimented his own advisory panels suggestions yet..
As usual, you are right. Where do we think all these deficits are coming from, the $9 Trillion by the end of 2019?

Right here;

Senate follows House, passes Obama budget plan - CNN

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The Senate passed a $3.53 trillion version of the federal budget for fiscal year 2010 late Thursday night in a party-line vote, ending several weeks of acrimonious partisan debate.

Earlier in the evening, the House of Representatives passed its own version of the spending plan --$3.55 trillion budget, capping off a long day of debate and voting marked by the defeat of several alternative spending plan
Obama signed it into law. The CBO has the estimates, facts, figures of the disaster.

Remember, the CRs taking place today is for the rest of 2011 and the rollout from Ryan is for 2012.
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:38 PM
 
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The 6.2 trillion savings are based on a *ton* of hypotheticals and fuzzy math that a few people have already said doesn't seem to make sense. The plan is also missing quite a bit of the details that are actually supposed to be generating the savings.

But are Paul Ryan’s numbers real? - The Plum Line - The Washington Post
To dispute your link.
The first is that Ryan is counting on considerable budget savings — $1.4 trillion over the decade — by repealing the Affordable Care Act. Of course, the CBO has said that ACA will be a net budget winner over the next decade, and a major winner after that.

Thats because the CBO double counted $53B in Social Security Payments, and $70 in premium payments for long term insurance as "revenues".. Its not revenues, because its to cover future expenses..

if you look at these two items, you get $1.23T over a 10 year period, and then you add in the $115B in cost to put the program into effect you get your $1.38T.. Not sur eif htis is how its being calculated, but its pretty dam close.
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:39 PM
 
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As usual, you are right. Where do we think all these deficits are coming from, the $9 Trillion by the end of 2019?

Right here;

Senate follows House, passes Obama budget plan - CNN

Obama signed it into law. The CBO has the estimates, facts, figures of the disaster.

Remember, the CRs taking place today is for the rest of 2011 and the rollout from Ryan is for 2012.
Well I've seen Congress sign it but I havent seen anything to indicate Obama signed his own bill..
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:40 PM
 
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He can't, what part of that do you pretend to not understand.
Why cant he? If he cant, then why did he waste the taxpayers money then?
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Well I've seen Congress sign it but I havent seen anything to indicate Obama signed his own bill..
Well, of course he signed it, why wouldn't he?
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:42 PM
 
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Sure .... let's follow more economic advice from Republicans.

They did SO WELL for us last time they were in charge ... we only ended up with the GREATEST ECONOMIC DISASTER since the GREAT DEPRESSION!
And do tell us what year that started and who was running Congress.

Please, we will be waiting.
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Why cant he? If he cant, then why did he waste the taxpayers money then?
????
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:49 PM
 
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mr bob.. having trouble following along in the coversation again?
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Still waiting for you to tell me why Obama hasnt implimented his own advisory panels suggestions yet..
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He can't, what part of that do you pretend to not understand.
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Why cant he? If he cant, then why did he waste the taxpayers money then?
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????
Why CANT Obama impliment HIS OWN ADVISORS SUGGESTIONS?

Are you telling me he cant lead? Are you telling me he's that incompetent? WHY CANT HE?
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Old 04-05-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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You know for the life of me, I could have sworn Obama signed a fiscal budget into law, but I'll be damned if I could find proof. He's written 3 proposals so far, Congress passed on of them almost unchanged, but I cant find a source to say that he actually signed it into law.
Congress has not passed any of Obama's proposed budgets, despite the lies being spewed by the media.

First, the latest proposed budget for FY12 is not even being considered by the GOP controlled House. Second, if you had followed the source link I provided you, you would have noticed that Obama signed the last six continuing resolutions:
  • 1st Continuing Resolution: From 10/01/2010 to 12/03/2010 became Public Law 111-242 on 09/30/2010.
  • 2nd Continuing Resolution: From 12/04/2010 to 12/18/2010 became Public Law 111-290 on 12/04/2010.
  • 3rd Continuing Resolution: From 12/19/2010 to 12/21/2010 became Public Law 111-317 on 12/18/2010.
  • 4th Continuing Resolution: From 12/22/2010 to 03/04/2011 became Public Law 111-322 on 12/22/2010.
  • 5th Continuing Resolution: From 03/05/2011 to 03/18/2011 became Public Law 112-004 on 03/02/2011.
  • 6th Continuing Resolution: From 03/19/2011 to 04/08/2011 became Public Law 112-006 on 03/18/2011.
There has been no budget passed by Congress since Democrats took control in 2007. The last budget passed by Congress was in 2006 for FY 2007.

Stick to the actual source instead of relying on the media and you will be better informed.

Source: Status of Appropriations Legislation for Fiscal Year 2011 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
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Old 04-05-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Congress has not passed any of Obama's proposed budgets, despite the lies being spewed by the media.

First, the latest proposed budget for FY12 is not even being considered by the GOP controlled House. Second, if you had followed the source link I provided you, you would have noticed that Obama signed the last six continuing resolutions:
  • 1st Continuing Resolution: From 10/01/2010 to 12/03/2010 became Public Law 111-242 on 09/30/2010.
  • 2nd Continuing Resolution: From 12/04/2010 to 12/18/2010 became Public Law 111-290 on 12/04/2010.
  • 3rd Continuing Resolution: From 12/19/2010 to 12/21/2010 became Public Law 111-317 on 12/18/2010.
  • 4th Continuing Resolution: From 12/22/2010 to 03/04/2011 became Public Law 111-322 on 12/22/2010.
  • 5th Continuing Resolution: From 03/05/2011 to 03/18/2011 became Public Law 112-004 on 03/02/2011.
  • 6th Continuing Resolution: From 03/19/2011 to 04/08/2011 became Public Law 112-006 on 03/18/2011.
There has been no budget passed by Congress since Democrats took control in 2007. The last budget passed by Congress was in 2006 for FY 2007.

Stick to the actual source instead of relying on the media and you will be better informed.

Source: Status of Appropriations Legislation for Fiscal Year 2011 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
What about obama's $3.53 budget signed into law in 2009?
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