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Old 04-08-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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So a Republican county clerk who worked for Prosser in the past, had all the information on her personal computer, and has blown vote counts in the past 'finds' 7500 votes for the republican, the exact number to avoid a mandatory recount and the left is trying to cheat?
Those were legit votes, the Dems of the county had a press conference last night and CONFIRMED they were legit. You should be more concerned with the fraud the Dems pulled by registering 17 year old HS students using that fraudulent register and vote in the same day without ID scam that WI has going on. There was also a county CAUGHT shredding ballots before they were counted. This happened to be a heavy Repub district. They are investigating that one.
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Wow protectourelections is calling for an investigation??!! That should pretty much amount to nothing......
Exactly. I guess the Left will continue to IGNORE the democrat on the canvassing board who says the numbers are correct.

I guess they still don't understand these were not "extra" votes missed in the initial count - this was a WHOLE CITY excluded from the count.

Now, either the city was counted OR it was not - simple.

The numbers just don't add up for the Left/unions. Before the city's vote count was included, people noticed the city was not performing up to historical numbers and was an outlier - now we know why and once corrected, falls right in line with normalcy;

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/119476004.html

Now matter how you slice the statistics for this town, it comes up accurate and correct.

The Left/unions are barking up the wrong tree, statistically.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/119442229.html

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Big vote adjustment brings Waukesha turnout more in line with nearby GOP counties
Of course, I'm sure the Left/unions would like to disqualify those votes for the sole reason that the clerk made a human error.

They would LOVE to disenfranchise the voters.
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Old 04-08-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Just to point out a few things.

If these votes were found in Dane I do think the GOP would be up in arms. With that being said with the trail, as well as taking into consideration turnout numbers, before and after these votes it does appear that its legit. The Wisconsin GAB board are sending officials to Waukesha county which seems like the right thing to investigate, but for now I don't think any evidence suggests fraud is involved.

As far as any recount recounts are offered by the state if the margin is within .5%, with the numbers still bouncing around somewhat it appears its about .51% or .52%, so its possible some slight changes could push that down a bit and you also have to take into consideration absentees.
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Old 04-08-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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So a Republican county clerk who worked for Prosser in the past, had all the information on her personal computer, and has blown vote counts in the past 'finds' 7500 votes for the republican, the exact number to avoid a mandatory recount and the left is trying to cheat?
1. The clerk found about 14 THOUSAND votes that weren't counted.

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Ramona Kitzinger, the vice chair of Waukesha County Democratic party who observed the canvass, said she is satisfied the numbers are now correct.
As a student, I would hope your homework is more accurate than this post of yours.
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Old 04-08-2011, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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1. The clerk found about 14 THOUSAND votes that weren't counted.

2.

As a student, I would hope your homework is more accurate than this post of yours.
You could stand some brushing up on your basic reading skills yourself.

Randomstudent was referring to the number of "found votes" that went for the GOP, which was about 7500, NOT the TOTAL number of "found votes" which was indeed about 14,000.

So, in a neck-and-neck election, the county clerk in a GOP stronghold magically realizes the next day that she neglected to count 14,000 votes? And, that once quickly counted, they break 3-1 for her party's candidate? AND, they not only give him the win, reversing the election results, but ALSO place him just out of recount range? And, Wisconsin Dems are supposed to buy this hooey?

As Church Lady would say, "How conveeeeenient!"
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Old 04-08-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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You could stand some brushing up on your basic reading skills yourself.

Randomstudent was referring to the number of "found votes" that went for the GOP, which was about 7500, NOT the TOTAL number of "found votes" which was indeed about 14,000.

So, in a neck-and-neck election, the county clerk in a GOP stronghold magically realizes the next day that she neglected to count 14,000 votes? And, that once quickly counted, they break 3-1 for her party's candidate? AND, they not only give him the win, reversing the election results, but ALSO place him just out of recount range? And, Wisconsin Dems are supposed to buy this hooey?

As Church Lady would say, "How conveeeeenient!"
You know it's really quite simple. If the tally shows ZERO votes for this city, don't you think they were not counted in the first place?

The democrat canvas board member verifies everything - too bad. Approx 10500 of the 14000 votes went to Prosser, which is not surprising and perfectly in line with previous elections.

Here, listen to Left Nate and others who NOTICED on Tuesday something was amiss in the county - namely, missing votes.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...ot-conspiracy/

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But a look at the turnout estimates in Waukesha County, before and after the problem was corrected, suggest that her mistake was probably an honest one. The original turnout figure was somewhat lower than what might have been expected statistically, and the revised one is more in line with reasonable expectations.

In the gubernatorial election in 2010, Waukesha County, a Republican stronghold, had the highest turnout among the 72 counties in Wisconsin. Of its 261,405 registered voters, 188,278, or 72 percent, cast a legal ballot in that race, well above Wisconsin’s statewide turnout of 62 percent.
In other words - these conservatives in this little city VOTE.

Huge union/Left defeat.
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Playing around with the numbers a bit, it appears its actually just within the recount margin.

Politico reported a 206 vote lead for Kloppenburg prior to the added votes from Waukesha. AP had it at 204, but didn't update since Wed, a few bounces around with Winnebego, Grant, Portege, Door and Iowa Counties basically resulted in a two net change. I checked the numbers in the counties politico reported saw changes in the AP report to each county website, and made the adjustments accordingly. Granted some other differences could exist between the AP tally, and the county numbers, but I have seen no reports on it.

Anyway it appears that Prosser holds a 751,595 to 744,219 lead, which is 7,376 of the 1,495,814 votes cast (.49%).

I have been trying to find out if absentees have been counted or not, and it seems the reports are conflicting. Some have said they have been, others have said the earlier arriving absentees have been counted, but those arriving closer to the deadline have not.
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:23 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Overall the American taxpayer is not heavily taxed compared to other countries.
Completely irrelevant. You're talking federal taxes. WI public employees are paid through state and local taxes.

Are you and other libs volunteering to pay much higher taxes than the rest of us to pay for public employees' greed?

Maybe you could take up a collection...
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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That's pure bullsh*t. The reason other public employee unions such as fire and police were not included in the legislation to curtail collective bargaining rights in Wisconsin was those unions SUPPORTED SCOTT WALKERS ELECTION BID.
Prove it.
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:29 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No it won't this is going to be one hell of a fight but in the long run the Republican Party in Wisconsin is going to lose and lose big time.
Earth to JazzyTallGuy... there is no money. Budget reform WILL happen, dragging greedy public employees and their unions kicking and screaming if necessary because... wait for it... there is no money.
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