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I cant get on some sites while at work or else id post a link but please look up on youtube the ultrasound of an abortion at 12 weeks. You see the "fetus" move from the machine you see the "fetus" open its mouth and scream that silent scream that no one will ever hear as the machine tears it apart limb by limb. So Im sorry but they do feel pain.
Please. Spontaneous abortions are part of life. If this were true, women who have first trimester miscarriages would be traumatized for life over the suffering of the fetus as well as the loss of a potential child.
Do you think an embryo (prior to 9 weeks) or a fetus that dies naturally in the womb is aware of it's existence and begs God to spare it's life? That it's suffering before it's killed by nature? What of ectopic pregnancies, that must be terminated before the mother dies? Are you going to tell the women that go through that that the fetus is screaming in pain?
Because if it works one way it must also work the other.
I respect a person's right to oppose abortion. I don't respect a person who argues from a position of pure emotional manipulation, in order to further their own agenda.
Please. Spontaneous abortions are part of life. If this were true, women who have first trimester miscarriages would be traumatized for life over the suffering of the fetus as well as the loss of a potential child.
Do you think an embryo (prior to 9 weeks) or a fetus that dies naturally in the womb is aware of it's existence and begs God to spare it's life? That it's suffering before it's killed by nature? What of ectopic pregnancies, that must be terminated before the mother dies? Are you going to tell the women that go through that that the fetus is screaming in pain?
Because if it works one way it must also work the other.
I respect a person's right to oppose abortion. I don't respect a person who argues from a position of pure emotional manipulation, in order to further their own agenda.
in fact I do believe all of that...not that the fetus is crying out to god...it hasnt been taught religion yet but yes it does feel pain
and yes a woman who has a first trimester abortion may be traumatized for life. i was and am its been 3 years 7 months and 19 days since I had my miscarriage and not a day goes by that I dont think of it.
in fact I do believe all of that...not that the fetus is crying out to god...it hasnt been taught religion yet but yes it does feel pain
and yes a woman who has a first trimester abortion may be traumatized for life. i was and am its been 3 years 7 months and 19 days since I had my miscarriage and not a day goes by that I dont think of it.
A belief and a fact are not the same thing.
I am truly sorry you had the miscarriage, but I'm also sorry that you torture yourself with the unfounded and unnecessary belief that the fetus suffered.
The people that propagate that myth have a lot to answer for.
in fact I do believe all of that...not that the fetus is crying out to god...it hasnt been taught religion yet but yes it does feel pain
and yes a woman who has a first trimester abortion may be traumatized for life. i was and am its been 3 years 7 months and 19 days since I had my miscarriage and not a day goes by that I dont think of it.
That's exactly the point. Hardly any potential mother easily has an abortion, either. My mother had to have an abortion for medical reasons, and she suffered for years.
I am truly sorry you had the miscarriage, but I'm also sorry that you torture yourself with the unfounded and unnecessary belief that the fetus suffered.
The people that propagate that myth have a lot to answer for.
in my situation I dont think the baby suffered because it was missed miscarriage, babies heart just stopped so I think that it was more of going to sleep and not waking up type of death
That's exactly the point. Hardly any potential mother easily has an abortion, either. My mother had to have an abortion for medical reasons, and she suffered for years.
im not saying having an abortion for medical reasons is wrong, I wouldnt do it but that just me, if a friend or family was told at like 11 weeks pregnant that if they carried they would die and she had the abortion I wouldnt look down on her
I think when you have an abortion because you found out the baby would be born with mental problems or down syndrome thats not right or if you have an abortion because you dont think your ready to be a parent thats wrong
im not saying having an abortion for medical reasons is wrong, I wouldnt do it but that just me, if a friend or family was told at like 11 weeks pregnant that if they carried they would die and she had the abortion I wouldnt look down on her
I think when you have an abortion because you found out the baby would be born with mental problems or down syndrome thats not right or if you have an abortion because you dont think your ready to be a parent thats wrong
Modern diagnostics have put us in that difficult situation. Before that one did not know until birth whether or not a baby was handicapped.
"Being ready" is also the exception I have most problems with. It is very wishy washy and one might ask if such people should be sexually active in the first place. I guess the separation of sex and reproduction thanks to relatively modern inventions poses a problem.
in fact I do believe all of that...not that the fetus is crying out to god...it hasnt been taught religion yet but yes it does feel pain
and yes a woman who has a first trimester abortion may be traumatized for life. i was and am its been 3 years 7 months and 19 days since I had my miscarriage and not a day goes by that I dont think of it.
I'm sorry for your miscarriage, but once again - pain receptors do not develop until around 29 weeks. You can't feel pain if you have no pain receptors connected to your central nervous system. And even after that, amniotic fluid contains lots of anisthethics.
I will agree with you, 3rd trimester abortions are pretty brutal and should only be done in absolute dire circumstances (i.e. mother's health).
But I don't think the pain argument works in the case of 1st trimester.
im not saying having an abortion for medical reasons is wrong, I wouldnt do it but that just me, if a friend or family was told at like 11 weeks pregnant that if they carried they would die and she had the abortion I wouldnt look down on her
I think when you have an abortion because you found out the baby would be born with mental problems or down syndrome thats not right or if you have an abortion because you dont think your ready to be a parent thats wrong
I think handicaps are a case by case basis issue. For example, if you know a baby will be born with Tay Sachs, I think not having an abortion is extremely cruel and inhumane.
I cant get on some sites while at work or else id post a link but please look up on youtube the ultrasound of an abortion at 12 weeks. You see the "fetus" move from the machine you see the "fetus" open its mouth and scream that silent scream that no one will ever hear as the machine tears it apart limb by limb. So Im sorry but they do feel pain.
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Originally Posted by OhioChic
in fact I do believe all of that...not that the fetus is crying out to god...it hasnt been taught religion yet but yes it does feel pain
and yes a woman who has a first trimester abortion may be traumatized for life. i was and am its been 3 years 7 months and 19 days since I had my miscarriage and not a day goes by that I dont think of it.
I am sorry that you miscarried, but how you feel does not represent how every other women does and will feel.
As for fetal pain, what you have stated is not true. It is not true because at 12 weeks the fetus does not have a developed nervous system, only reflexes. If you touch the fetus it will move away from the touch based on reflex. The nervous system is only developed enough to determine pain between 23 and 30 weeks.
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