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Old 04-06-2011, 08:02 PM
 
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Does Paul Ryan’s Record Match His Rhetoric? | Republican Liberty Caucus of Wisconsin

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The fact of the matter is that Congressman Ryan voted with George W. Bush 94% of the time. That’s why Ryan’s 2007 Republican Liberty Caucus Liberty Index score, which ranks members of Congress on their voting record from a constitutional perspective, was 91% on economic issues but only 56% on social issues. In 2006, his score on the Liberty Index was 66% on economic issues and 67% on social issues. He has scored better on the Liberty Index; his 2008 score, for example, was 88 both on social and economic issues — an impressive score.
Tsk tsk...he seems to be "born again" in the face of Obama. Me thinks he's not as sincere as people think he is.
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:05 PM
 
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Does Paul Ryan’s Record Match His Rhetoric? | Republican Liberty Caucus of Wisconsin

Tsk tsk...he seems to be "born again" in the face of Obama. Me thinks he's not as sincere as people think he is.
Or maybe, its because the POLICIES were changing due to a different president and a change in who controlled Congress.
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:16 PM
 
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Or maybe, its because the POLICIES were changing due to a different president and a change in who controlled Congress.
So, he received a low fiscal rating because democrats made him vote for those spending bills? Isn't that the same childish game the Obamatrons are playing?
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:23 PM
 
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So, he received a low fiscal rating because democrats made him vote for those spending bills? Isn't that the same childish game the Obamatrons are playing?
Actually his score went up because he opposed the spending bills..

The results are for LIMITED government.

And you need to look at the questions asked to determine if he is for limited government or not..

in 2006 for example
Off Shore Drilling Permits
Free Trade Agreements
Gulf of Mexico off shore drilling permits
Estate tax repeal.
Judge Alitos confirmation

etc.. They are NOT spending bills despite your claims

There are a few of them, but they are for a a billion or so in 1996, compared to 1999 bills being listed dealing with HUNDREDS of billions.

If you cant tell the difference between supporting a $1B bill, and $828B bill then you need to talk to a math teacher..
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:24 PM
 
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Actually his score went up because he opposed the spending bills..

The results are for LIMITED government.

And you need to look at the questions asked to determine if he is for limited government or not..

in 2006 for example
Off Shore Drilling Permits
Free Trade Agreements
Gulf of Mexico off shore drilling permits
Estate tax repeal.
Judge Alitos confirmation

etc.. They are NOT spending bills despite your claims
They're not my claims. They are the Republican Liberty Caucus's, a highly reputable grassroots group.
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:25 PM
 
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Fiscal conservatism FAIL.

-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:26 PM
 
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Some more FAIL.

Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs
-Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients. (Nov 2003)
-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers. (Jun 2006)
-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks. (Oct 2008)
-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:28 PM
 
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...aaaaaand some more neo-prog style voting.

Paul Ryan on Education
Rep. Ryan went along with the Bush Administration in supporting more federal involvement in education. This is contrary to the traditional Republican position, which included support for abolition of the Department of Education and decreasing federal involvement in education.
-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)


Paul Ryan on Civil Liberties
-Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
-Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:30 PM
 
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They're not my claims. They are the Republican Liberty Caucus's, a highly reputable grassroots group.
This wasnt your claim?
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Tsk tsk...he seems to be "born again" in the face of Obama. Me thinks he's not as sincere as people think he is.
Did someone hijack your account?
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Fiscal conservatism FAIL.

-Voted YES on TARP (2008)
-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)
-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
FAIL.. TARP returned billions of dollars to the taxpayers in PROFIT and saved the nation from a complete economic collapse. Using that vote as an indication that they oppose big government is ridiculous, since an economic collapse would surely have meant substantial growth in government..

The bailout for GM and Chrysler was part of TARP..

And you are now telling me we didnt need stimulus spending? Or are you now only objecting to it because it was Ryan that voted for it?
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:34 PM
 
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...aaaaaand some more neo-prog style voting.

Paul Ryan on Education
Rep. Ryan went along with the Bush Administration in supporting more federal involvement in education. This is contrary to the traditional Republican position, which included support for abolition of the Department of Education and decreasing federal involvement in education.
-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)
So you dont want to educate our children?
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Paul Ryan on Civil Liberties
-Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
And you support terrorists having drivers licenses?
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Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
Which has nothing to do with americans..
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-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)
You dont need a warrant to surveillance people outside of the USA.. this was confirmed by the US Courts
Court Affirms Wiretapping Without Warrants - NYTimes.com

Why do you oppose doing surveillance on terrorists?
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