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Any time any one in Congress starts talking about "savings", "deficits" or "surpluses" and uses the phrase "over a 10 year period" is lying through their teeth. Congress cannot even accurately predict one year in advance, much less 10, and they expect people to believe them? Truly amazing.
If we rolled all of those spending catagories back to even 2008 levels, we'd address a significant portion of the defecit. $290 billion isn't chump change, even with a trillion+ dollar defecit. Its a start. Instead, the spoiled children in DC are arguing about 30 billion vs $60 billion. effin' idiots.
You probably missed my post, or couldn't comprehend it. Total military spending in 2008 was... $900 Billion (a chunk of it wasn't made public via the budget).
Americans are so stupidly and ignorantly obsessed with their f'king military. Our military and our defense budgest and endless wars are killing our country. Our foreign policy and policing of the world is not making the world a safer place nor is it pathetically bringing ANY kind of democracy or freedom to the world. You wanna know where all your defense spending goes? Look at the biggest most expensive embassy ever to be built in IRAQ! And we aren't occupying that country? LMAO!
The most lucrative government contracts are propping up an entire defense industry i.e. Raytheon, Lockheed, Boeing, GE, etc. 70% of the US intelligence industry goes to PRIVATE COMPANIES! And we have capitalism in this country? Yeah right!
The military industrial complex is not only milking the tax payers dry it is subverting and hijacking the entire democratic process in America. We are taken to war and our young boys and girls sent off to die at the blink of an eye without congressional approval and the people's support be damned. Support the troops? F#$K the trooops! It's time the troops stand down and say enough is enough. It's time they tell their corrupt tyrannical overlords they are sick of fighting and dying for their vile puke of a commander in chief and his corporate puppeteers like GE. We had Cheney and his Haliburton and now we have Obongo and his GE/BP. Pathetic that Americans can't see the forest for the trees. Americans seem to have a propensity for grabbing their ankles and taking it up the rear end by their government.
You probably missed my post, or couldn't comprehend it. Total military spending in 2008 was... $900 Billion (a chunk of it wasn't made public via the budget).
Of course it wasn't made public. The CIA has been running drugs for 50+ years to fund black op projects and major American banks have been laundering drug money for decades. Most Americans are clueless or just don't care how corrupt their country and government is.
Don't forget, "defense" spending did not include spending in the two wars until the first budget under Obama. Total military spending in 2008 budget (FY2009) was $900 Billion.
So you're saying defense spending has already been cut from $900 billion to $673 billion since '08? I doubt it, but if so, way to go! Now lets start rollilng back the irresponsible, unsustainable increases in domestic spending that took place in that time.
Of course it wasn't made public. The CIA has been running drugs for 50+ years to fund black op projects and major American banks have been laundering drug money for decades. Most Americans are clueless or just don't care how corrupt their country and government is.
It is loud and clear that a lot of Americans are happier being clueless. The Ostrich Syndrome at work.
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake
So you're saying defense spending has already been cut from $900 billion to $673 billion since '08? I doubt it, but if so, way to go! Now lets start rollilng back the irresponsible, unsustainable increases in domestic spending that took place in that time.
Nope. Total Military Spending:
FY2009: $900 Billion (Last budget under Bush, plus $ 118 Billion in spending on wars kept off the budget, the Paul Ryan benchmark)
FY2011 $895 Billion (Second budget under Obama, includes war spending)
FY2012: $881 Billion (Third budget under Obama, includes war spending)
In current dollars, military spending has come down a little. In constant (2010) dollars, a little more so.
If you look secretary Gates has already porposed cuts in defense. The defense budget itself is at 1990 levels and rmained pretty steady at 4%. Remember that it's budget does not include war spending in Iran;Afganistan or libya. Also much of the money spent in Iran and afganistan is not for military spending but in other budget since its control by other departments.
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