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Paul Ryan is a guy who thinks that military spending hasn't been a problem.
I'm sure he thinks that 80% increase in defense spending in 2009 compared to 1999 was a necessity?
oh no not a meaningless number like 80%
ss in 1999 ................. 378billion................ss in 2010 ............. 719b............a 90% increase
medicare/caid in 1999....296billion..... care/caid in 2010 ..............797b...........a 170% increase
ss in 1999 ................. 378billion......ss in 2010 ........ 719b........a 90% increase
medicare/caid in 1999....296billion care/caid in 2010 797b......a 170% increase
Thanks for letting me be more aware of your clueless in comparing numbers. I get it that you can at least divide, add, subtract and multiply (not that I've bothered to check your numbers, anyway).
If we do not cut spending now, we will be forced to make even harder cuts in the future. Our interest on the debt alone is a very significant part of our federal expenditures. If we continue the way we are going, that will only continue to grow. It would be expected to grow very quickly as interest rates we pay to borrow money increase, due to our reduced ability to pay it back. This spending on the debt further cuts what we have available to spend on other items, rather domestic or defense. We simply can't keep doing what we have been doing.
Very true. The interest payments on the National Debt is the fourth largest single expenditure in the budget, just behind Defense spending. In FY2010, we paid $414 billion in interest on the National Debt. In just the first four months of FY2011 we have already spent $169,361,712,628.99 in interest. Which means by the end of FY2011 we will have spent $508,085,137,886.97 just on interest.
That is an increase of $94 billion in just interest payments on the National Debt alone from FY2010, and Boehner is only proposing to cut $61 billion? Truly pathetic.
Thanks for letting me be more aware of your clueless in comparing numbers. I get it that you can at least divide, add, subtract and multiply (not that I've bothered to check your numbers, anyway).
You haven't provided any figures for comparison...his are the best we have.
So defense spending has increased 80%, while in the same time we have increased medicare and medicaid 170%...and out of control defense spending is the problem?
What would the defecit look like if we reduced those values to the same rate of increase as defense?
Yikes i just started this thread this morning and there are too many pages to read during lunch. Yes its $1 trillion over a time period. Toyman medicare and medicade have increased because we have many more older as well as unhealthy people who need those programs.
I'd rather have unemployed bombs and missiles, than teachers!
You haven't provided any figures for comparison...his are the best we have.
I provided you a whole damn link for you to play with. And I guess, like him, you're also into basic addition, subtraction, multiplication and division and assume that you could take a number from 1980s and use it as is three decades later.
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So defense spending has increased 80%, while in the same time we have increased medicare and medicaid 170%...and out of control defense spending is the problem?
I would like to see your math. And the definition of "problem". To me, almost $400B increase in spending in a year IS a problem.
I provided you a whole damn link for you to play with. And I guess, like him, you're also into basic addition, subtraction, multiplication and division and assume that you could take a number from 1980s and use it as is three decades later.
I would like to see your math. And the definition of "problem". To me, almost $400B increase in spending in a year IS a problem.
As far as I could determine, your link doesn't provide figures adjusted to a common baseline (2009 $$ for example), and I haven't taken the time to look for a conversion. It seemed like you had one.
As to the math part, it's been a couple of years (OK, decades) since doing multi-variate calculus and Fourier transforms, but if necessary, I can still do them. But we're talking basic accounting here....guess what, addition, subtraction multiplation and division are generally all that's required. Oh, and a source.
Given that the military budget is around $590 billion, it would be tough to cut $1 trillion.
The military needs to be cut, as well as EVERY government program.
you did not include the interest on the debt. Probably didn't include the money going to Libya. He has said in the past we spend a trillion a year building our empire. That is probably where the thought comes from. Usually people do not look into what Ron or Rand Paul says and go by 30 second sound bites from a blogger.
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