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Old 04-07-2011, 09:44 PM
 
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it further validates my statement that 99 percent of the voting public has no impact, and its that elite 1 percent that will decide the elections.

i used to have civic pride that voting was something worthwhile and it was important. thats a tired old argument by the clueless.

i read a political article saying obama is lining up donors to raise 700,000 each to have 300 mill in the war chest ready to go. thats under 500 people.

again. your 5-10 dollar, 100 dollar donation or whatever to your little gop candidate or dem candidate is irrelevant. you have no effect on who wins, so quit pretending your vote actually means something. thats the simple truth of it.

And it sure doesn't help when illegals get to vote. WTH?????
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:56 PM
 
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He obviously believes in politicians buying elections.

After receiving over one billion dollars in campaign contributions, we should be a bit concerned with how indebted our president will be to the donors after he assumes office. We have seen 0bama kick back billions in taxpayer dollars to the unions, after receiving tens of millions from SEIU alone. You could probably go down a list of 0bama's major campaign donors and find tens of billions funneled to them thru government programs like TARP, the Stimulus, 0bamaCare, and many others. not to mention political appointments that are made as a way to payback donors. They give you millions in contributions, and you appoint one of their trusted people to a powerful position in government, so they get the insider trading info they need to make ten fold on their contributions.
Exactly! I can't even imagine how many new CZARS will be added to the collection if O gets elected after collecting a BILLION DOLLARS he has to pay back one way or another!
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:02 AM
 
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Exactly! I can't even imagine how many new CZARS will be added to the collection if O gets elected after collecting a BILLION DOLLARS he has to pay back one way or another!
Well, maybe YOU can explain how Republicans will campaign without using any money???? No other Obama haters can seem to do that....

Maybe YOU can answer the question below?? NO other Obama hater can answer...why not?????






Gee, it'll sure be interesting to see how the Repugs run a campaign without any money.....REPUBLICAN Rep. Michelle Bacmann broke a record for Representative campaigns with the funds she raise in '08...(some was even from INSIDE the country).


...I'm sure the repugs in here will agree that was gluttonous, shameful, suspicious...RIGHT!??
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Old 04-08-2011, 06:24 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Selective outrage no doubt

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How can Democrats explain where the money comes from ? I thought all the rich were Republicans? Is it all American ? What do the donors want in exchange ?
How much is from union dues ? Is that not laundered stimulus money .
Given to Unions ,
collected in dues ,
then donated back to Obama campaign ?
I am embarrassed that my country spends so much on elections .

President Obama plans $1bn fund to fight for re-election | The Sun |Features
Credit Obama for knowing what he needs to offset a conservative Supreme Court and its support for corporations financing GOP candidates. He can get this kind of money because he has that amount of SUPPORT. Millions want this man reelected, and $1B is a figure that indicates the level of opposition to that shameful GOP. Most people in this country do not want more of Bush.

Instead of focusing on Obama, focus on all the money given to clear Bush-like incompetents like Palin, Trump, Limbaugh, Huckabee, Romney, and all the other scary GOP suspects.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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it further validates my statement that 99 percent of the voting public has no impact, and its that elite 1 percent that will decide the elections.
But I'm sure you were elated with Citizens United decision from the Supreme Court last year.
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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It's a load but outrage is not exactly the word I had in mind.
So now money in politics is a good thing to those on the left?

We can clearly see the crony capitalism going on in the 0bama admin, he is the exact reason why people are concerned about these wealthy and powerful special interest groups buying politicians.

0bama was the first presidential candidate to opt out of public funding for the general election, yup, he is historical.
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:17 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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obama was the first presidential candidate to opt out of the public finance system.
George W. Bush in 2000 became the first major-party candidate to win the presidential nomination without taking federal matching funds for the primaries. Since then, no nominee has. Obama became the first major-party nominee to turn down general election money.

Republicans are against taxpayer financing of political campaigns and have introduced a bill to eliminate it.

Watergate-Era Public Finance System Faces Budget Ax - Bloomberg
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:20 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Gee, it'll sure be interesting to see how the Repugs run a campaign without any money.....
Vote for Trump. He'll use his own money.
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Credit Obama for knowing what he needs to offset a conservative Supreme Court and its support for corporations financing GOP candidates. He can get this kind of money because he has that amount of SUPPORT. Millions want this man reelected, and $1B is a figure that indicates the level of opposition to that shameful GOP. Most people in this country do not want more of Bush.

Instead of focusing on Obama, focus on all the money given to clear Bush-like incompetents like Palin, Trump, Limbaugh, Huckabee, Romney, and all the other scary GOP suspects.
You think that ruling allows "corporations financing GOP candidates"? You seem to think this ruling allows corporations to contribute unlimited amount directly to the candidates.

BTW, this ruling also gave unions the same freedoms as corporations.
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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Well, maybe YOU can explain how Republicans will campaign without using any money???? No other Obama haters can seem to do that....

Maybe YOU can answer the question below?? NO other Obama hater can answer...why not?????






Gee, it'll sure be interesting to see how the Repugs run a campaign without any money.....REPUBLICAN Rep. Michelle Bacmann broke a record for Representative campaigns with the funds she raise in '08...(some was even from INSIDE the country).


...I'm sure the repugs in here will agree that was gluttonous, shameful, suspicious...RIGHT!??
Obama is the one to set the pace. He is the POTUS. He is the INCUMBENT. At this economically distressed time, it is shameful for him to set the bar this high; especially considering the social/political paybacks that will be mandated as a result of accepting campaign funds from the likes of Union Thugs, etc.; not to mention the likes of Soros and his evil comrades. But, in the end, we shouldn't worry too much, because O is still gonna LOSE in 2012.!
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