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Old 04-13-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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[quote=Fiyero;18715505]Greece, Rome, Egypt, and China have all had it.

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In modern times or the past?




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I think places like Canada, New Zealand, Australia, etc. are good models considering they always rank as the highest quality of living in the world and the best civil rights in the world. Where as the US comes no where close.
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What is done in other countries is their business and to hold them up as an example is like saying to your parents, "Well, everyone else is doing it. Why can't I?"
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Old 04-13-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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Greece, Rome, Egypt, and China have all had it.

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In modern times or the past?
In the past. It is well documented that 1 male - 1 female of marriage being ONLY 1 male and 1 female is a newer construct.
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Old 04-13-2011, 04:56 PM
 
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In the past. It is well documented that 1 male - 1 female of marriage being ONLY 1 male and 1 female is a newer construct.
Likewise, there seems to be no widespread historical basis for anything except male-female marriage.
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:03 PM
 
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The only reason I hesitate to support same-sex marriage is because I fear it may be opening the door to any and all kinds of marriages i.e. polygamy, polyandry, group marriage, close relative marriage, etc. and I am of the opinion that such a free-for-all will make marriage meaningless.
That is truly the goal anyway. If you normalize the abnormal then thare are no standards, no societal norms, no boundaries between decency and indecency. Debauchery.

We have marriage equality, each sex is treated exactly the same in that they can marry a member of the opposite sex if they so choose.

Last edited by lifelongMOgal; 04-13-2011 at 05:11 PM.. Reason: typo
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:00 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Another man turning away from Jesus. Sad.
Jesus would not support hate. Read your Bible already.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Even then marriage was one-man/one-woman. "Race" is an issue that has been laid to rest as there is so much mixture of various racial groups today, it is virtually meaningless. Making the leap from heterosexual marriage to same-sex marriage is a much bigger leap. There's no getting around the differences between men and women and the fact that it takes an egg and a sperm to make a baby.
We're talking about a legal contract, not reproduction. Try to focus.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:06 PM
 
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Making the leap from heterosexual marriage to same-sex marriage is a much bigger leap. There's no getting around the differences between men and women and the fact that it takes an egg and a sperm to make a baby.
Well if having children is what you think defines marriage,
we should change the law: you must have a child before getting married

There are many heterosexual couples that choose not
to have any children.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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That is truly the goal anyway. If you normalize the abnormal then thare are no standards, no societal norms, no boundaries between decency and indecency. Debauchery.

We have marriage equality, each sex is treated exactly the same in that they can marry a member of the opposite sex if they so choose.
So have same sex marriage, all hell is going to break loose.
Orgies in the streets. Quite the propaganda, don't you
think.
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Old 04-14-2011, 06:26 AM
 
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Jesus would not support hate. Read your Bible already.
You're right. Jesus is not about hate. But He is about right and wrong.
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Old 04-14-2011, 06:39 AM
 
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I found this an amazing story of how one man's mind was opened enough for him to see where he was wrong. I now support full marriage equality - Louis J. Marinelli (http://louisjmarinelli.com/politics/i-now-support-full-marriage-equality - broken link)
So he thinks it should be male/female only and we shouldn't create a new class of marriage for 3% of the population?


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Jesus would not support hate. Read your Bible already.

So when he called the Pharisees a brood of vipers, and made a whip to cast the money-changers out of the temple, he was just being a lovey-dovey, milk-toast Jesus?

I'm not suggesting that we hate anyone...but I have as much right to my opinion as you do to your's. Saying something is wrong is not hate--or you'd be guilty of hate-speech for condemning us.
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