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Old 04-11-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Originally Posted by Gary Siete View Post
It is largely differences in local and state taxes. Texans pay 38 cents/gallon in taxes and Californians pay 66 cents/gallon.

Motor Fuel Taxes


Gas prices from www.gasbuddy.com - taxes don't explain the whole gap - likely the selected cities have higher local taxes than the rest of their state
Lowest gas price in City -From GasBuddy.com
Tucson $3.31-$3.37
Chicago $3.99-$4.29
San Fransisco $3.99-$4.05

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You map is not even close to being accurate. Alaska has the second lowest state gasoline taxes in the nation at $0.08/gallon for both gasoline and diesel.

Source: Gasoline tax information - Alaska Gas Prices

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Old 04-11-2011, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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One reason is Californians pay the highest (to my knowledge) gasoline taxes in the country at 66 cent per gallon. The national average is 48 cents per gallon. Another reason for California's sky high gas prices is a lack of refining capacity. In late 1980s and early 1990s California imposed new regulations on refiners. Producing newly required low-emissions gasoline blends cost refiners about $400,000,000 to upgrade their equipment. Some of the smaller refineries couldn't handle the cost and closed up shop. This created a shortage of refining capacity and forced prices higher.
Actually, the California state tax on gasoline and diesel is $0.18/gallon, plus another 6% in sales tax. Which makes them lower than 37 other states. That map you are basing this number on is completely inaccurate.

Source: Gasoline tax information - California Gas Prices
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Old 04-11-2011, 01:09 PM
 
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This is more of the same old blaming one side for all of society's ills.

Its getting so tired.

Why not drill for oil but also encourage Americans to drive more fuel efficient cars?

In fact, why is 'drill baby drill' almost a religious chant for some people but those same people curse up a storm at the thought of exploring alternative fuels.

Anything less than fossil fuels is a complete waste of time to them and I will never for the life of me understand that hypocrisy.

Conversely, uber-liberals need to understand that we no longer drive horse-drawn carriages and that we need to do more exploiting of our natural resources in order to become more energy independent.

OK,
Discussion.

Putting a windmill on top of my car is not going to reduce my cost of driving or the cost of food and other products. The govt. subsizes ethanol, which is a failure, and the price of corn products goes up.

Hey I'm for all of the above, including domestic oil.


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encourage Americans to drive more fuel efficient cars
Obama forced taxpayers to bailout General Motors. He promised that GM would adhere to fuel efficiency standards that would make Democrats happy....preventing all of Earth's glaciers from melting....thus preventing the end of the world.

GM still owes billions to the taxpayers and just announced their latest station wagon - from Cadillac -

556 horse power, 190 miles per hour, 14 miles per gallon, $70,000.


Don't blame me. Blame Obama. Not good for the environment. Not affordable for the middle class.


Chevy Volt? Dead.
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Old 04-11-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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You map is not even close to being accurate. Alaska has the second lowest state gasoline taxes in the nation at $0.08/gallon for both gasoline and diesel.

Source: Gasoline tax information - Alaska Gas Prices
That's state tax only - you have to add federal and local/municipal taxes.
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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That's state tax only - you have to add federal and local/municipal taxes.
Federal Tax is a uniform $0.184/gallon. At state level, California has a $0.18/gallon gasoline tax plus 6% sales tax. Likewise, in Texas, state tax is $0.20/gallon plus 6.3% sales tax. In effect, taxes appear to be lower in California than they are in Texas.

However, there are additional costs included in a gallon of gasoline, including refining, distribution and marketing which can vary by region.
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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So what is this? Economics class?

If Democrats would allow America to increase it's domestic oil production by say 15% or 20%, would that ease prices in the long run? If we could run slightly from OPEC?

Would a 20% increase in domestic oil production at least give America some more security? Less depency would be good, right?
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:18 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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If Democrats would allow America to increase it's domestic oil production by say 15% or 20%, would that ease prices in the long run? If we could run slightly from OPEC?

Would a 20% increase in domestic oil production at least give America some more security? Less depency would be good, right?
20% increase over current capacity would put us where we were in 1997-98. Domestic oil production has declined in the USA since the 1970s. In fact, over last two decades, only three years have seen any increase in oil production from previous year, 1991, 2009 and 2010.
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:43 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Federal Tax is a uniform $0.184/gallon. At state level, California has a $0.18/gallon gasoline tax plus 6% sales tax. Likewise, in Texas, state tax is $0.20/gallon plus 6.3% sales tax. In effect, taxes appear to be lower in California than they are in Texas.

However, there are additional costs included in a gallon of gasoline, including refining, distribution and marketing which can vary by region.
California No. 2 in U.S. in gas tax - Handling Hard Times - The Orange County Register
In July 2010, California changed the way it charges gasoline taxes. As part of the effort to close the state budget deficit, the legislature doubled the motor vehicle fuel tax from 17.3 cents a gallon to 35.3 cents but also lowered the sales and use tax on motor vehicle fuel from 8.25% to 2.25%.
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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That's state tax only - you have to add federal and local/municipal taxes.
Federal gasoline taxes is $0.184/gallon, added to Alaska's $0.08/gallon state tax comes to $0.264/gallon. There are no local or municipal taxes on gasoline in Alaska.

Try again. Your map is completely bogus.
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Old 04-11-2011, 05:43 PM
 
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"Chicago at $4.11 was right behind San Francisco at $4.13. Tucson, Ariz., had the nation's lowest average price for gas at $3.41."

News from AP | The Dallas Morning News, dallasnews.com

Yesterday, it cost me $3.58 per gallon at the local Shell station here in East Tennessee.

Why is gasoline so expensive in San Francisco and Chicago? It can't be that the gasoline is better. They don't live on an island or up in the mountains making it difficult for gasoline to get to them. The difference in prices in different places have nothing to do with speculators. If it's different in the country versus the city then why does Tuscon, a city, have the cheapest gas in the US? Is it the local tax or do gas station owners set the price in their town/city?
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Only one reason - because people who want it are willing to pay that much for it. A little thing I like to call, supply and demand.
the reasons why gas prices vary widely across the country, and even across large cities, are numerous. they include taxes, distribution costs, refining costs, storage costs, among others. understand that there are about 20 different blends of gasoline that the refiners have to produce for different areas of the country, down from 40 a few years ago. each time the refineries have to change blends, it costs money.
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