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Old 04-12-2011, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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When was the last time you read about how many American people die of preventable diseases from lack of affordable care, and food, and shelter?
Your comment about people dying in the streets is an example of hysteria. That hysteria is abetted by a media sympathetic to Obama and to left-wing ideology (aka people who think universal care is actually good). Show me a nation with a population as large as ours in which the health care is better, then we'll talk. Sick people from around the world show up every single at Kings County Hospital claiming indigence. (They call Kings County Hospital 'The Mayo Clinic of the Third World.') Maybe if we didn't spend so lavishly taking care of people here who never worked a day in their life in this country we could afford to treat more of our own poor folks. As it is, if you're sick and you show up at a hospital they must take care of you.

If you want to compare American health care to that of health care around the world just check the airline manifestos and see in what direction the sick of the world are traveling.

The number one reason health care is inefficient to the degree that it is and so damned expensive is because the number one buyer of health services is the government, and they don't shop like real people do -with value for money as the first priority. And billions of dollars are wasted every year because Medicare and Medicaid aren't insurance companies -they're check writing machines.

 
Old 04-12-2011, 09:31 AM
 
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Your comment about people dying in the streets is an example of hysteria. That hysteria is abetted by a media sympathetic to Obama and to left-wing ideology (aka people who think universal care is actually good). Show me a nation with a population as large as ours in which the health care is better, then we'll talk. Sick people from around the world show up every single at Kings County Hospital claiming indigence. (They call Kings County Hospital 'The Mayo Clinic of the Third World.') Maybe if we didn't spend so lavishly taking care of people here who never worked a day in their life in this country we could afford to treat more of our own poor folks. As it is, if you're sick and you show up at a hospital they must take care of you.

If you want to compare American health care to that of health care around the world just check the airline manifestos and see in what direction the sick of the world are traveling.

The number one reason health care is inefficient to the degree that it is and so damned expensive is because the number one buyer of health services is the government, and they don't shop like real people do -with value for money as the first priority. And billions of dollars are wasted every year because Medicare and Medicaid aren't insurance companies -they're check writing machines.
"As it is, if you're sick and you show up at a hospital they must take care of you".

This is not true. Some people needing care are turned away from hospitals.

All hospitals are supposed to admit in emergency care situations.

Private hospitals do not have to admit non emergency care patients.

Sadly, sometimes patients needing emergency care are misdiagnosed, turned away, and then later die.
 
Old 04-12-2011, 09:58 AM
 
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These are not from credible sources. Show me proof. Bush also got us into endless wars.


YouTube - You are controlled, whether you believe it or not.
Why don't you read the statics, rather than jumping to conclusions it's not credible!! Bush got us into wars, and just what is Obama doing, does Libya and not ending the war in Afghanistan ring a bell!!

Love it when people bring Jesus into the political debate!!
 
Old 04-12-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are rich. They got rich off of keeping racism alive and well. Are they white too?
Did you see the word MOST? See what you wanna see.
 
Old 04-12-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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I never have. Because it isn't true.
Go get an education, and stop watching Fox. It isn't news. Go look up facts.

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There was no surplus. You have been fooled.
Really? Prove it.

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Originally Posted by Cavaturaccioli View Post
Your comment about people dying in the streets is an example of hysteria. That hysteria is abetted by a media sympathetic to Obama and to left-wing ideology (aka people who think universal care is actually good). Show me a nation with a population as large as ours in which the health care is better, then we'll talk. Sick people from around the world show up every single at Kings County Hospital claiming indigence. (They call Kings County Hospital 'The Mayo Clinic of the Third World.') Maybe if we didn't spend so lavishly taking care of people here who never worked a day in their life in this country we could afford to treat more of our own poor folks. As it is, if you're sick and you show up at a hospital they must take care of you.

If you want to compare American health care to that of health care around the world just check the airline manifestos and see in what direction the sick of the world are traveling.

The number one reason health care is inefficient to the degree that it is and so damned expensive is because the number one buyer of health services is the government, and they don't shop like real people do -with value for money as the first priority. And billions of dollars are wasted every year because Medicare and Medicaid aren't insurance companies -they're check writing machines.
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"As it is, if you're sick and you show up at a hospital they must take care of you".

This is not true. Some people needing care are turned away from hospitals.


All hospitals are supposed to admit in emergency care situations.


Private hospitals do not have to admit non emergency care patients.


Sadly, sometimes patients needing emergency care are misdiagnosed, turned away, and then later die
.
This is the truth. ^^^
It costs taxpayers more to pay for expensive hospital visits, than it would have if they recieved care in the first place. You really need to get updated on your facts. Over 45,000,000 Americans have ZERO COVERAGE.

Daily Kos: Imagine being uninsured with brain cancer
 
Old 04-12-2011, 11:33 AM
 
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Did you see the word MOST? See what you wanna see.
I see pure racism. That's all it is. Why Liberal whites want to do this is purely pathetic.
 
Old 04-12-2011, 11:33 AM
 
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Why don't you read the statics, rather than jumping to conclusions it's not credible!! Bush got us into wars, and just what is Obama doing, does Libya and not ending the war in Afghanistan ring a bell!!

Love it when people bring Jesus into the political debate!!
Did you watch the video? I am anti-conservative in every way possible. Obama isn't exactly left wing either.
 
Old 04-12-2011, 11:34 AM
 
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Good thing she's blaming the white race and the male gender or she might be considered racist/sexist and be forced to apologize, resign or even... be fired on the spot and told to seek professional help!


Mika: We‘ll Have ’Class Warfare on its Worst Levels‘ if ’Rich White Men‘ Don’t Contribute More | The Blaze
That's how Skippy got elected prez....he got a bunch of folks disenchanted with those "evil white guys".
 
Old 04-12-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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Go get an education, and stop watching Fox. It isn't news. Go look up facts.



Really? Prove it.





This is the truth. ^^^
It costs taxpayers more to pay for expensive hospital visits, than it would have if they recieved care in the first place. You really need to get updated on your facts. Over 45,000,000 Americans have ZERO COVERAGE.

Daily Kos: Imagine being uninsured with brain cancer
What propaganda. You are crying about facts and you post a link to the Daily Kooks....
 
Old 04-12-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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I see pure racism. That's all it is. Why Liberal whites want to do this is purely pathetic.
You deny most rich people are white? Oh wait, you denied nobody does from lack of health care too. LOL.
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