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Old 04-13-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Huh...? Like a paycheck wasn't a factor.
You are kidding, right? Of all the federal employees, the military is paid the worst. Most earn below a poverty level income. In the eight years that I served, I never met anyone who joined the military for the pay.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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You are kidding, right? Of all the federal employees, the military is paid the worst. Most earn below a poverty level income. In the eight years that I served, I never met anyone who joined the military for the pay.
Exactly, I never met anyone who joined the service because they were going to be paid well.
That poster doesnt know what they dont know.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You are kidding, right? Of all the federal employees, the military is paid the worst. Most earn below a poverty level income. In the eight years that I served, I never met anyone who joined the military for the pay.
Are you claiming that everybody joins with the sole desire to serve the nation?
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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Your president Obama spit in the faces of our troops and the American citizens when he started a war with Libya.
The military action in Libya cannot be construed as a full scale war unless you have purely political reason for doing so. We have no military ground troops involved and any air resources at this point is rather limited.

Thiis is no more a war than the military no-fly zone was a war over Iraq from 1991 to 2003.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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Why do we need a 1.6 million active duty personnel and global policing, again? Who benefits from it? IMO, being puppets to the military industrial complex isn't just stupid, it is a rather expensive hobby.
The people in Formosa probably appreciate it, as they've got China itching to invade them. South Korea may also appreciate it, there's this lunatic to the north that would like to pay a return visit. I'm not fond of the idea of lunatic Muslims flying planes into our skyscrapers or blowing up subways in Spain and London, either.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:45 AM
 
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My statement has been about military throwing the promise of citizenship to immigrants (who normally enter this country on the promise of an intent of non-immigration, BTW), as a lure to join the military. Why? This also includes such "anchor children" that conservatives in this country hate seeing around, largely growing up on "welfare". Now, if they don't succeed on their own, they can't pay for college, they can't afford health care, well, military offers them all and tax payers will pony up the cost. Don't you love it?
Wouldn't bother me at all to deny enlistment to anchor children, however if this was done liberals would be screaming their heads off about how the military was discriminating against them. Ditto to anyone else who isn't a citizen.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The people in Formosa probably appreciate it, as they've got China itching to invade them. South Korea may also appreciate it, there's this lunatic to the north that would like to pay a return visit. I'm not fond of the idea of lunatic Muslims flying planes into our skyscrapers or blowing up subways in Spain and London, either.
Okay, so you’re one of those who thinks billions and trillions spent in foreign land for “those people” is a good idea, but here at home. I'm assuming you're a tea partier?

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Wouldn't bother me at all to deny enlistment to anchor children, however if this was done liberals would be screaming their heads off about how the military was discriminating against them. Ditto to anyone else who isn't a citizen.
It doesn’t matter if you’re bothered by something or not. What matters is what military has become, a tool, not for defense but for global force. People are attracted on the promise of entitlement and tax payers must pay for it in more ways than one.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:20 AM
 
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Okay, so you’re one of those who thinks billions and trillions spent in foreign land for “those people” is a good idea, but here at home. I'm assuming you're a tea partier?


It doesn’t matter if you’re bothered by something or not. What matters is what military has become, a tool, not for defense but for global force. People are attracted on the promise of entitlement and tax payers must pay for it in more ways than one.

I wouldn't call them entitlements, since most service members work very hard for their paychecks and benefits. Also, since the base pay itself is very low, the benefits allow a decent standard of living. Look up a military pay scale sometime, the actual base rates aren't great.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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The only ones who spit in the face of the troops are the radical right. Sending our heroes off to die in false wars, destroying families, slashing their benefits,..all in the name to bankroll the rich and feed the chicken hawks.
You mean like VietNam, Korea, WW2, Bosnia?

All Democrat wars.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:48 AM
 
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Thank you for your service. Grunts are the ones that bring the war to the enemy...REMFs are there to make sure the grunts have what they need to do their job. Otherwise they serve no purpose
Many a military battle and in fact wars have been lost becase REMFs didn't give grunts what they needed.

Life is awful rough for a grunt with no food, no ammo, and no medical support.

This is not to hate on the grunts I repsect their job but it's a two way street. A grunt really ain't worth a lot without logistical support.
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