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View Poll Results: I believe the estimate of 9 million is...
Overinflated! 24 15.48%
Undercounted! 61 39.35%
Irrelevant! 53 34.19%
Shocking! 7 4.52%
Fantastic! 10 6.45%
Voters: 155. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-14-2011, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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If you are foreign-born I guess you get a pass on honest ignorance, but for an American to not understand this is inexcusable.
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I'm not sure that's even an excuse. No country has a direct democracy. Even Athens didn't have a true direct democracy where the majority rules, and they invented it.

Any basic knowledge of ancient or modern history/government would discuss the differences in democracies and that direct democracy is very dangerous.
Nope. Even a foreign born American citizen should know better because of the citizenship classes they have to take before becoming a citizen.
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Old 04-14-2011, 11:52 AM
 
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Give it up Andrea, 99% of gays do not choose to be gay. Just because 1 person is either in denial, or maybe was bisexual and surpressed it for her whole life, doesn't mean she chose to have those feelings. or all other gays do too.

For someone who is so "Christian" and "loving" you seriously are determined to demonize gays at every chance you get.
I brought up Baxter, not to prove gays choose to be gay,
but some realize it later in life. Your right, in a society
that has attached such a severe stigma to it in the past,
no wonder. I think the numbers are really much higher,
as a result.
My husband had an uncle who had been married, divorced, but
it wasn't until we found letters when going through his things after he died,
that we found out he was gay.

Of course he was born in a time, when it wasn't okay to
be open about it, and many hid behind unhappy marriages.
I can't even imagine how hard it must be, for someone to live
as something they do not want to be, just to please others/society.
We were sad, that he had to keep this
secret his whole life. We would not have minded a bit,
if he had told us.

Nowadays, everyone I know, that has accepted they're gay,
seems so relieved, to just get it out there in the open and
get on with their life

I think the only choice, is choosing when to tell others
the truth.

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Old 04-14-2011, 11:59 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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When i was much younger i remember hearing some say that each of us, man and women, have a bit of ying yang in us, but that some will cease to never act on these feelings. What you feel about those words. Think i was in my twentys at the time, but i knew what that meant.
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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When i was much younger i remember hearing some say that each of us, man and women, have a bit of ying yang in us, but that some will cease to never act on these feelings. What you feel about those words. Think i was in my twentys at the time, but i knew what that meant.
I think so...yes.

Most will never act on it.

That is why it happens in prisons and other situations were people are isolated.
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Old 04-14-2011, 12:34 PM
 
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Since when has a democracy been a tyranny?

Majority rule should always be the order of the day .. regardless of who or what you personally might like this week.
Ha. Yeah, right. The Constitution overrules the majority, regardless of the laws the majority passes.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:01 PM
 
Location: USA
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I say Irrelavent, but the numbers are confusing, especially if you add Bi into the equation. The other confusing one is woman who identify thereselves as Lesbian only to go back to men later. Were they ever really Lesbian? Was it out of convenience or expectation of their Lesbian lover. Who knows sure?
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:06 PM
 
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and.??
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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wait a second

arent the gays saying that bi is not the same as gay

and that transgender (gender identfication) is also not the same as gay

but when they want a big number they count all........hmmmmmmm
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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I believe the estimate of 9 million is...
based on contributions from city data liberals.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:12 PM
 
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wait a second

arent the gays saying that bi is not the same as gay

and that transgender (gender identfication) is also not the same as gay

but when they want a big number they count all........hmmmmmmm
Even in a population of 300 million, that is only equivalent to about 3%. That's not enough reason to redefine marriage and give special rights to them.
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