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Old 04-12-2011, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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American Thinker: Barack Obama and Slavery

Oh, try studying history somewhere other than Wiki sometime too. Maybe you should pick up a history book from the late 1800's if you want one without revisionism on the topic of the "civil war" and slavery.
I trust a Wiki link alot more than the slanted one you posted.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:05 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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Barrack Obama's Kenyan tribe participated in the slave trade. Are you outraged by that part of his African heritage that his ancestors participated in enslaving fellow blacks? Or, is that "different" somehow?
Why assume that anyone cares about what Obama's Kenyan tribe did one way or the other?
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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problem with that is slavery was the primary cause of the war.

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Myth 1. The South seceded over states' rights.

Confederate states did claim the right to secede, but no state claimed to be seceding for that right. In fact, Confederates opposed states' rights -- that is, the right of Northern states not to support slavery.
On Dec. 24, 1860, delegates at South Carolina's secession convention adopted a "Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union." It noted "an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery" and protested that Northern states had failed to "fulfill their constitutional obligations" by interfering with the return of fugitive slaves to bondage. Slavery, not states' rights, birthed the Civil War.
South Carolina was further upset that New York no longer allowed "slavery transit." In the past, if Charleston gentry wanted to spend August in the Hamptons, they could bring their cook along. No longer -- and South Carolina's delegates were outraged. In addition, they objected that New England states let black men vote and tolerated abolitionist societies. According to South Carolina, states should not have the right to let their citizens assemble and speak freely when what they said threatened slavery.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010703178.html
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:19 PM
 
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Read up on the Corwin Amendment and one of it's most vocal supporters. In short you will find that 'Father Abraham' offered to forever allow slavery in the South if they would not secede.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Read up on the Corwin Amendment and one of it's most vocal supporters. In short you will find that 'Father Abraham' offered to forever allow slavery in the South if they would not secede.
oh, when was that signed into law????
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:40 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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Barrack Obama's Kenyan tribe participated in the slave trade. Are you outraged by that part of his African heritage that his ancestors participated in enslaving fellow blacks? Or, is that "different" somehow?
The tribes of what is now known as Kenya, located in east Africa, did not participate in the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

And I love the "fellow blacks" comment. It's pretty entertaining to see people project contemporary notions of racial categories back into antiquity when such notions did not exist.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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oh, when was that signed into law????
Passed by Congress March 2, 1861. Named for Ohio Representative Thomas Corwin

Next question, Mr. History.
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Passed by Congress March 2, 1861. Named for Ohio Representative Thomas Corwin

Next question, Mr. History.
it was a "Constitutional" Amendment, it was never rarified, so it never became law. Next time read the question carefully...
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:24 PM
 
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it was a "Constitutional" Amendment, it was never rarified, so it never became law. Next time read the question carefully...
Is that all you got?
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Is that all you got?
the question is is an unratified constitutional amendment all YOU got?
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