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I just don't want the United States government to force tax payers to pay for it. A public option that didn't require funding from tax dollars would be great, single payer would be great if that single payer wasn't the US tax payers.
I hear a lot of people saying that conservatives like myself don't want people to have health coverage which is completely false. I want all US citizens to be healthy and have access to affordable health care, I just don't want my hard earned tax dollars to be spent on it because I work to pay for my own health insurance and that's not cheap. I'm by no means rich, I shouldn't have to subsidize people who may not even want health insurance in the first place.
Call me greedy or heartless, I don't really care because it's not the federal government's place to provide health insurance for people.
I well understand the argument from the right on this and I too know the pain of paying for that which I may never use. At the same time, when I put gas in my tank, much of these taxes are going towards the funding of roads I'll never drive on, ever, in my entire life, yet I pay for their construction and maintenance. Now someone might argue that I have the choice NOT to pay the taxes on my gas by not buying gas, but is that a reasonable argument? Why should I pay property taxes that are used to fund schools if I don't have any children attending them?
There is and must be some level of... dare I say, 'socialism' to our society in which we see to the many over the few. We have no problem accepting this proposition in military and defense terms because it is written into the Constitution, yet because the Constitution doesn't have a provision for the nation well being in health care, we should oppose it?
Kennedy is famed for his line, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country", and at one time, there was a sense of obligation to the nation, for better or worse, that doesn't exist today. I don't want to pay for slackers and leeches anymore than the next person and I believe there are equitable alternatives to be found, but we cannot look at the world purely in terms of 'the self'.
Would you be asking the same question if it were your spouse?
There's too many in this country that are NOT humane and have no heart for the helpless (whether temporary or permanent), just because they happen to be in great health nobody and nothing else matters and the heck with everyone else "let them suffer and or perish" is their thoughts or "let them work and contribute first" when they cannot which is beyond their control or choice.
I just don't want the United States government to force tax payers to pay for it. A public option that didn't require funding from tax dollars would be great, single payer would be great if that single payer wasn't the US tax payers.
I hear a lot of people saying that conservatives like myself don't want people to have health coverage which is completely false. I want all US citizens to be healthy and have access to affordable health care, I just don't want my hard earned tax dollars to be spent on it because I work to pay for my own health insurance and that's not cheap. I'm by no means rich, I shouldn't have to subsidize people who may not even want health insurance in the first place.
Call me greedy or heartless, I don't really care because it's not the federal government's place to provide health insurance for people.
The thing is, if we had govt. funded healthcare- you wouldn't be paying your hard earned dollars just to cover someone else, you would be paying in to pay a small portion of the entire system- including good coverage for yourself. That's what so many people against this don't seem to get- sure they have good coverage currently and don't want to pay extra to help anyone else, but the key is that in this kind of system our taxes cover it so we ALL have this coverage. If you lose your job and are unemployed for a few months, you would still be covered. You don't have to worry if that next job you do get has good insurance coverage- you are always covered. That is the beauty of that kind of a system.
I'm pretty conservative as well, I never understood the angst emanating from the Right during the townhalls during the Obamacare debate. You had people who were poor and often had no insurance themselves screaming at the top of theri lungs in opposition.
Why would making sure people have access to health care generate so much scorn?
You've never understood it because you either don't understand what Obamacare is or you're not conservative.
Nice way of avoiding the question. At least we know where you stand: If you're disabled and ill, go ahead and die.
The only person who's avoided any question is you. Do I need to ask again?
Was your husband a working, productive member of society before he became ill or was disabled? It's a very simple question really, was he disabled due to something that happened at work? Was he working at the time of this illness? Did he have a job? Was he employed?
There are millions of disabled Americans who are disabled because they were fighting for our country or were hurt while working as a productive member of society. There are also members of our society who have been "disabled" for decades and were never a productive member of our society by choice.
There's too many in this country that are NOT humane and have no heart for the helpless (whether temporary or permanent), just because they happen to be in great health nobody and nothing else matters and the heck with everyone else "let them suffer and or perish" is their thoughts or "let them work and contribute first" when they cannot which is beyond their control or choice.
Sickening isn't it?
I'm sure you're talking about someone else because I've already said that I have no problem helping those who are helpless. I have a problem helping those who are choose not to help themselves or society.
I am a far right conservative as well, however I disagree with your stance on healthcare. In my opinion on cannot be free unless they are healthy. I think everyone should be forced to live without healthcare for two years before making an opinion on the necissity of healthcare and freedom.
I also don't think health care should be a "for profit" enterprise. I don't believe in making profits off of people dying.
I support a single-payer, not-for-profit, MANDATORY health care system. And I proudly wave my conservative flag and join Tea Party rallies. And will most likely be voting for Trump.
I'm a far right conservative and I've lived without healthcare for 5 years without a problem.
that's because INSURANCE is a business...a RISK business
why do you think people who smoke pay higher premiums n life INSURANCE
why do you think poor drivers (accidents and tickets) pay higher premiums on auto INSURANCE
why do you think people in bad weather areas pay more on homeowners INSURANCE
I'm a far right conservative and I've lived without healthcare for 5 years without a problem.
Reminds me of a guy I once met who bragged that he had not seen a dentist for 20 years.
Of course, his teeth were a mess. Teeth missing, foul breath, etc.
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