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Old 04-13-2011, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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I'm saying you were WRONG when you said they were not calculated for the DEBT

Do you even know the difference between DEBT and DEFICITS?

Fail again.. The 1920 tax cuts resulted in massive economic prosperity in the country, (ever hear of the roaring 20's), and when the tax rates were again increased in the 1930's, we ended up with the great depression of 1937.. Was this the period of time you proclaimed was so wonderful?

But yet again, you are now displaying that you dont comprehend the difference between a deficit, and a debt, and taxes on income, vs taxes on wealth, but now you are adding into the things you dont know, the idfference between a marginal tax rate, and an effective tax rate..

You shouldnt have stopped at your first error so I wouldnt have to keep embarassing you..

Do you realize governments own reports say that the nation should be taxed at 17% of GDP in order to maximize federal tax dollars? Anything over that reduces federal tax income
????
When was the Great Depression? Wow, I thought you at least some knowledge. But, carry on in that alternate world.
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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President Barack Obama proposed a debt-cutting plan on Wednesday that calls for $4 trillion in deficit reduction over 12 years, along with an automatic trigger for spending cuts and tax increases if targets to rein in the deficit aren’t met.
While calling for an additional $2 trillion in spending cuts beyond his most recent budget, the president proposed no new tax or revenue proposals, though he stood by his long-stated plan to allow the Bush-era income tax rates to expire. That approach may dampen some Republican criticism of him but is certain to anger liberals who object to additional cuts in government services without parallel tax hikes.


Barack Obama on the deficit: Cut $4 trillion in 12 years - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com

No new taxes
The top tax rate would be cut by 12 points. It's a common sense proposal, and I'd be surprised if Republicans opposed it since it contains many of their own proposals too. A lot of common ground. As a matter of fact if you take the bi-partisan plan from November, and Ryan's plan and this one, there is a LOT of common ground. I think they will agree on something soon. They just need to put the credit taking and finger pointing to rest.

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Old 04-13-2011, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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wow obamy would TRY to cut 4 trillion over a 12 year span..meaning 1 trillion every three years.....meanwhile we a CURRENTLY, in this current year 1.5 trillion in DEFICIT above what we bring in

cut EVERYTHING back to 2004 levels (about 20-25%)

he should be cutting 15 trillion in the 12 year span...liberals never get it...its the spending
Hmm, that would mean cutting miliraty some 40%
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Dont you love how Democrats double the size of government spending, and then propose a small 10% cut, and then they get away with calling it a cut...
Do you love it more when Republicans do it?
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Obama increased the national debt more in his 2 years of office than the Bush administration did during their whole 8 years
Check your numbers.
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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What a lame speech. This is not a serious president.
He is seriously trying to destroy the country.. That man must go, the sooner the better...
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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The top tax rate would be cut by 12 points. It's a common sense proposal, and I'd be surprised if Republicans opposed it since it contains many of their own proposals too.
It's only common sence if you have no common sense.. He plan will destroy the economy more than he alread has, and that is exactly what he wants to do..!!
He's a dirty SOB and will not stand a change of re-election
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:59 PM
 
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Dont you love how Democrats double the size of government spending, and then propose a small 10% cut, and then they get away with calling it a cut...
And then only start the alleged cuts AFTER THE ELECTION.
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Old 04-13-2011, 06:01 PM
 
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When was the Great Depression? Wow, I thought you at least some knowledge. But, carry on in that alternate world.
Sorry, was doing something else at the same time, but you ahve YET to substantiate what made these periods with 90% tax rates so wonderful, and my error doesnt change the fact that the wars DID add to the debt, despite your claims they were hidden.. I was wrong once, you constantly..
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Old 04-13-2011, 06:02 PM
 
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Do you love it more when Republicans do it?
Strawman argument, never said that..
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Check your numbers.
Not only did I check them, but I posted them.. telling me to check them is meaningless unless you can tell me where they were incorrect..
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