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Old 04-15-2011, 05:40 AM
 
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Anyone for tensions and uncertainties in the ME and Libya?

In 2008, we had a tremendous surge in the price of oil, for a number of reasons.
Here's an article from June, 2008
Oil surges $11 to record $138 - Jun. 6, 2008

Nobody cared when oil went down like a rock in water after that year.

If people came up with a common sense plan to increase our drilling in the US, we'd be better off. Not some drill baby drill plan, but in areas with the least impact on environmental areas, and the most positive impact on jobs and the economy. The GOM spill highlighted weaknesses that many didn't want to highlight.

If everyone looked past the political debates, and the completely ridiculous, short-term arguments, we might make some progress. We'd also have more domestic oil in our own supply if companies weren't so willing to export it for more profit, as has been the case with diesel fuel.
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Old 04-15-2011, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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$5.00 gas is because Obama will not let the industry drill into the heart of America.

Fox says it is Obama's fault cuz he stops domestic drilling.

Make sense to anybody besides Fox News?

Are we ready to spill baby spill some more?
and what do you suggest? Of course we need to drill baby drill. We need to do our best to keep from another repeat of last summer, but we need to get away from depending on the mid east for so much or our oil, or Brazil as well.

Nita
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Old 04-15-2011, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It would be years before we even saw a single drop of oil. Gas is goin up just like before, because of speculators.
1/2 of what you say is right, it would be years, but that is like saying, stop trying to find a cure of deseases because it will take years. Maybe you don't have kids and grandkids, maybe you don't care about the future of our country but some of us do..

Bush wanted to drill in Alaska almost as soon as he took over, but congress listened to the tree hungers, let's not upset the enviornment plus it will take 10 years to see any oil: that 10 years is up, we could have started seeing results by now.

Nita
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Old 04-15-2011, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Gone
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$5.00 gas is because Obama will not let the industry drill into the heart of America.

Fox says it is Obama's fault cuz he stops domestic drilling.

Make sense to anybody besides Fox News?

Are we ready to spill baby spill some more?
FOX Lies AGAIN, and I am sure plenty of brain dead righties will believe it with all their heart, especially since it attacks President Obama. Nothing new there folks.
Casper
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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and what do you suggest? Of course we need to drill baby drill. We need to do our best to keep from another repeat of last summer, but we need to get away from depending on the mid east for so much or our oil, or Brazil as well.

Nita
Other sources. What we need to be doing is investing more in energy sources OTHER than oil.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:52 PM
 
Location: North America
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$5.00 gas is because Obama will not let the industry drill into the heart of America.

Fox says it is Obama's fault cuz he stops domestic drilling.

Make sense to anybody besides Fox News?

Are we ready to spill baby spill some more?

I wonder if they made the same assumption when it went up to $4.00 a gallon when GWB was in.

It's the speculators.
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Old 04-16-2011, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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I paid $4.10 for a gal of gas today. A barrel of oil went up yesterday over 1.00 to about $110.00 a barrel.
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Old 04-18-2011, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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A barrel of oil is down today over $2.00 to around $108.00. Thats way too damn high. **** OPEC & the wallstreet scum.
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Old 04-18-2011, 06:19 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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I paid $4.10 for a gal of gas today. A barrel of oil went up yesterday over 1.00 to about $110.00 a barrel.
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A barrel of oil is down today over $2.00 to around $108.00. Thats way too damn high. **** OPEC & the wallstreet scum.
According to ABC News tonight and even OPEC, there is currently NO SHORTAGE and oil company profits are expected to rise a healthy percentage, drill blah blah drill isn't going to change those prices.
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Old 04-18-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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the U.S. Energy Department announced the results of a land survey

It was conducted to determine the official amount of oil a thousand feet deep in the Rocky Mountains

They reported this stunning news:

We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.

Here are the official estimates:

* 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
* 18-times as much oil as Iraq
* 21-times as much oil as Kuwait
* 22-times as much oil as Iran
* 500-times as much oil as Yemen

And it's all right here in the Western United States.

James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says, "We've got more oil in this very compact area than the entire Middle East."

More than 2 TRILLION barrels. Untapped.

"That's more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the world today," reports The Denver Post.

When asked about America's least-publicized oil supply, Utah Senator Orrin Hatch said:

"The amounts of oil are staggering. Who would have guessed that in just Colorado and Utah, there is more recoverable oil than in the Middle East?"

Here's the kicker

The U.S. government already owns the land. It's been right there under our noses the whole time.

In fact, the government's appointed a small group of companies to begin the drilling.

Test drilling has already begun.

And the profit forecasts are ridiculous. According to the RAND Corporation (a public-policy think tank for the government), this small region can produce:

Three million barrels of oil per day That translates into more than $20 BILLION a year.

These are the conservative estimates. The U.S. Energy Dept. estimates an eventual output of 10 million barrels of oil per day. At that rate, the money flow would be even greater.

I've written this letter to tell you everything I've learned about this rarely publicized oil reserve who's drilling it and how to get a piece of the world's biggest, untapped oil supply - before it's too late.

Here's the full story

The Next American Oil Boom

There's a new source of oil in the American West.

Today, it sits idle - untapped - inside more than 16,000 square miles of rock and sand.

Geologists call what lies in this region, oil shale.

What is oil shale?

At first glance, oil shale looks like an ordinary black rock.

It feels grainy to the touch and greasy. You see, what's inside oil shale has huge governments, Big Oil, venture capitalists, and even everyday investors scrambling to stake a claim.

Oil shale - when heated - oozes bubbling crude.

This precious resource is rare - found only in a few select countries. Places like China, Brazil, Estonia, Morocco, and Australia.

But the real story is how much untapped oil shale lies beneath U.S. soil. As the chart to the right indicates, there's 4-times more oil shale in the U.S. than in all other countries combined.

Over the past 125 years, oil shale has been the secret oil source for a handful of nations. Specifically, those fortunate enough to have it

* China's been using oil shale since 1929. Today, China is the largest producer of oil from oil shale. It plans to double the daily rate of production soon.

* Estonia is an oil shale dependent economy. Over 90% of the country's electricity is fueled by shale oil. In fact, electricity run on oil shale is a chief export.

* In 1991, Brazil built the world's largest oil shale facility. They've already produced more than 1.5 MILLION tons of oil to make high quality transportation fuels.

* Jordan, Morocco, and Australia have recently announced plans to utilize their oil shale resources. All 3 governments are currently working to build oil shale facilities.

But all these countries' oil shale resources pale in comparison to the U.S. supply. As you can see from the table to the right, the United States dominates the oil shale market - with over 72% of the world's oil shale resources.

Our gargantuan supply of oil lies beneath an area called the Green River Formation - a barren stretch of land covering portions of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming.

World-renowned geologist Walter Youngquist calls the oil beneath the Green River Formation, "a national treasure."

Congress calls this area simply, "the next Saudi Arabia."

It's easy to see why

This region holds the largest known oil reserve on the planet

Colorado's Oil Lands - Restricted for 76 Years, Now Open for Drilling

There are over 16,000 square miles of oil shale in the Green River formation...

Each acre holds 2 million barrels of oil - it's the most concentrated energy source on earth, according to the Energy Department.

The federal government owns 80% of this oil-rich land.

In fact, the government placed protective legislation on this land in 1930, forbidding anyone to touch it.

You see, the government always knew this land was saturated with oil - but getting it out has always been expensive.

Buying oil from foreign countries was always the cheaper bet. It has been for the past 80 years.

Wisely, the government kept the land around for a "rainy day", protecting it with 1930s legislation.

I'm sure you're aware of today's situation at the gas pump. Buying oil from foreign countries has gotten out of hand. The price of oil is sky-high. It's way too expensive to keep buying foreign oil. In other words, the "rainy day" has finally arrived.

The timing couldn't be more perfect. Oil shale technologies have begun to advance ­ drastically.

Companies are coming up with ways to extract oil from the Green River Formation very cheaply.

For example, one Utah-based company says it can extract the oil for as little as $10 a barrel. In fact dozens of companies have stepped forward with similar claims. With oil prices approaching $150 a barrel ­ these are pretty significant breakthroughs.

That's all the government needed to hear.

On August 8, 2005, President Bush signed into law, a mandate lifting the protective legislation on the Green River Formation.

This mandate is called The Energy Policy Act of 2005. It calls for the opening phases of oil extraction in the Green River Formation ­ the world's most concentrated energy source.

We're finally ready to tap the largest oil reserve on the planet

from:
http://www.rense.com/general70/doro.htm
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