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Old 04-18-2011, 10:16 AM
 
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Technically it is racist to want to "preserve" your ethnic make-up. That's right up with the philosophy of the KKK and Storm Front.
Not true.

Opting for the latter is a sign of defeat of the country.

Most countries in the world has restrictions.
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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Really? Examples please.
Just head over to the Welfare office.
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:07 AM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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Not true.

Opting for the latter is a sign of defeat of the country.

Most countries in the world has restrictions.
Most countries in the world weren't started with the concepts of liberty.
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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We are importing ignorance and poverty and calling it "diversity".
There was already a study done on this issue.

http://www.themoralliberal.com/2011/04/05/most-illegal-immigrant-families-collect-welfare/

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Most countries in the world weren't started with the concepts of liberty.
While this country may have started with the concept of liberty, we are FAR FAR FAR from having it today.

The question you have to ask yourself is, how many immigrants would be coming to America if we had real liberty today? When I say liberty, I mean basically zero government programs. No free healthcare, no minimum wage, no food stamps, no public housing, no retirements, no nothing. Would we even have the immigration situation we have today if the people coming here weren't guaranteed anything, and if the businesses weren't being constantly subsidized by taxpayers, since they are paying such low wages that everyone who works for them is still eligible for assistance on everyone elses dime?

If we brought back the conditions of the early years of this country, you would see immigration, but it wouldn't be at anyones expense. Everyone who came here would receive nothing more than what they have earned through their hard work. And they would only come here if their productivity was more rewarded here than elsewhere. With real liberty, immigration wouldn't even matter.
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Just head over to the Welfare office.
I did and saw a bunch of middle aged white folk, what's your point??!!
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: You Ta Zhou
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Why can't Americans here help our economy?
So you'd prefer to end immigration altogether? That was not your original point and most people would agree that having no new immigrants is a bad idea. I don't understand what your response meant in relation to mine, it seems like a clumsy way to ignore the point.
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:42 AM
 
Location: You Ta Zhou
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He said nationality NOT RACE many countries have all races of people and mixes esp in latin america
What benefit does it serve to decide who enters the country based on nationality rather than considering how they would help the US.
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:53 AM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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While this country may have started with the concept of liberty, we are FAR FAR FAR from having it today.

The question you have to ask yourself is, how many immigrants would be coming to America if we had real liberty today? When I say liberty, I mean basically zero government programs. No free healthcare, no minimum wage, no food stamps, no public housing, no retirements, no nothing. Would we even have the immigration situation we have today if the people coming here weren't guaranteed anything, and if the businesses weren't being constantly subsidized by taxpayers, since they are paying such low wages that everyone who works for them is still eligible for assistance on everyone elses dime?

If we brought back the conditions of the early years of this country, you would see immigration, but it wouldn't be at anyones expense. Everyone who came here would receive nothing more than what they have earned through their hard work. And they would only come here if their productivity was more rewarded here than elsewhere. With real liberty, immigration wouldn't even matter.
I agree, that is the point I make with conservatives all the time. They seem to be against benefits, or at least other peoples benefits, they love theirs!

Once we rid the nation of the "illegal benefits", it won't take long to start scapegoating another group. Right now it is easy to blame all of the ills of the world on illegals but what happens when they no longer receive benefits? People will start going after lifestyle choices and decide who is "worthy" to receive our collective dime.

The right will go after sex issues of course and the left will tackle food and other personal lifestyle choices they deem inappropriate.

The left and the right will eventually merge into one authoritarian mass.
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Old 04-18-2011, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Can you name a few inventions from Black Africans from Africa? You know things like aspirin, the transistor, television, etc.
This is usually the type of question the "stupid fronters" ask. Like so much of their ideology it falls flat when you apply logic to it.

The question asks what have "Black Africans" invented. That's easy enough for any person with a search engine to find out.

http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/bathpatricia-big-tm.jpg?w=223&h=300 (broken link)
Invented: A form of eye surgery using lasers

or this

http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/nasaga-tm.jpg?w=300&h=226 (broken link)
Invented: Imaging X-Ray Spectrometer

or this
http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/boykinport-tm.jpg?w=192&h=300 (broken link)
Invented: Improved electrical resistor, and a control unit for pacemakers

or this

Top 10 African American Inventors



One of my favorites!!!


it provided the theory of connecting computers around the world to provide a scalable, network through which to share and process information. Using this concept in conjunction with the existing internet backbone, the world wide web would emerge as an new entity for providing communications and enhancing commerce. In 1989, in acknowledgement of his discovery, Emeagwali was awarded the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) Gordon Bell Prize which recognizes outstanding achievement in high-performance computing applications.

Basically he helped usher in the world wide web!!!
Tell you what, name any invention created in modern history and more than likely a "Black African" improved it, modified it, and invented something new based from it!!!

It's best to keep Storm front's arguments at Storm front, too many folk here will utterly destroy your assertions.
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Old 04-18-2011, 01:21 PM
 
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Just head over to the Welfare office.
How would you know? Hang out there much?
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