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Old 04-16-2011, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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Now suddenly when all I want is a peaceful exchange of productive political insight. Nobody has anything to say?
You aren't going to be convinced to change your political philosophy based on a few responses here. It took me a full 3 years of listening to both sides of an argument, doing independent research, and silently observing to decide where I stood.

I find myself particularly offset by this comment:

"But the reason I can't vote YOUR way is because I've failed to hear one right wing solution to the economy's woes that hasn't been tried before."

In regard to the economy, ideas are always being recycled through. You think Obama's stimulus plan is anything new? It is almost a carbon copy of Jimmy Carter's [failed] 1977 stimulus package, albeit on a larger scale. Bank and auto bailouts have been done before, with mixed results. Numerous unemployment extensions? Been there done that. Quantitative easing? Okay, that is relatively new, but it failed in a Japan a decade ago.

Economic priority #1 for the "right wing" has always been deficit reduction.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:12 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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calipoppy I consitently see the tea party and republicans painted as a racist group but have never seen it personally. I am honestly curious if you have experienced this personally or just seen what is reported on tv?

I would like to say it is all media hype but I just learned there was a KKK rally in VA a few weeks ago. I cannot believe that stuff still happens. It blows my mind.
Yes, I have had a "not-so-nice" run-in with a few Tea Party people in real life.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:17 PM
 
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Yes, I have had a "not-so-nice" run-in with a few Tea Party people in real life.

Well I have no answer to that other than I am sorry you were treated poorly and ignorantly. I sat here trying to think of a response but I can't even launch into a whole diatribe about judging the party and blah blah because I am sure it was a hurtful and angering event. So all I can say is I am sorry that you expereinced this.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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But I can't be converted by bashing left winger and convincing me not to vote Democrat. I can find plenty of my own reasons not to vote Democrat without help. But the reason I can't vote YOUR way is because I've failed to hear one right wing solution to the economy's woes that hasn't been tried before. I've failed to hear any exit strategy to our campaigns in the Middle East or how we make these campaigns worth the resources we pour into it. I have yet to hear any solutions to our failing education system from a right winger. Or a better healthcare plan. I will fight my instinct to argue with your points if you can do this without bashing Obama, Democrats, Muslims, Socialists or any sort of empty rhetoric, fear mongering or finger pointing that I promise will not sink in. Bashing the Obama administrations policies imply that your candidates have better ideas. Plans for better policies that help the many Americans trying to stay afloat in the recession. I'm dying to hear them. All I want, all I've ever wanted to read are any rational feasable solutions your candidates offer that will have America of 2016 (assuming the Mayans are wrong) much further along in in the right direction than in 2012.


Sorry to break the news to you Cyrano941, but you live in GA. If you don't vote a strait Republican ticket, it really doesn't matter anyway. Both your Senators and nine of your fourteen Representatives are Republicans. I don't think GA has gone blue in a presidential race since 1980 when Carter ran. The demographics of GA won't change any time soon and neither will their voting patterns. It would be like someone from MA and asking for liberals to convert him or her. It just doesn't matter because MA will never go red.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:31 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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The problem with the Republican party goes back further than the election of President Obama.

There was a push back in the late 19th/early 20th century to push Black voters out of the "party of Lincoln" in the Lily White Movement. The Black vote was then (and is still today) deemed by the Republican party as unnecessary.

Lily-White Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LILY-WHITE MOVEMENT | The Handbook of Texas Online| Texas State Historical Association (TSHA)
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:40 PM
 
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As a politically moderate, personally conservative Black woman who is a registered Independent yet tends to vote Democratic, I hate that the Republican party (and/or their anointed mouthpieces) constistently lets me know that my "kind" is not welcome in their party.
You are so right. that is why we kicked out Michael Steele, J.C.Watts, Walter Williams,, Thomas Sowell, Herman Caine, Alan Keyes and Condi Rice just to name a few.

Oh, wait, we still have them. My bad.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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You are so right. that is why we kicked out Michael Steele, J.C.Watts, Walter Williams,, Thomas Sowell, Herman Caine, Alan Keyes and Condi Rice just to name a few.

Oh, wait, we still have them. My bad.

Don't feed the race baiting trolls. It is their attempt to deflect from the overt racism of their party.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:47 PM
 
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The problem with the Republican party goes back further than the election of President Obama.

There was a push back in the late 19th/early 20th century to push Black voters out of the "party of Lincoln" in the Lily White Movement. The Black vote was then (and is still today) deemed by the Republican party as unnecessary.

Lily-White Movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

LILY-WHITE MOVEMENT | The Handbook of Texas Online| Texas State Historical Association (TSHA)
A little history is what you need.

Which party did Lincoln belong to?

Which party tried to block the Civil Rights act?

Which party held in high esteem a former higher up in the KKK?

Me thinks you have made up YOUR mind already and it isn't the Party's fault.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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A little history is what you need.

Which party did Lincoln belong to?

Which party tried to block the Civil Rights act?

Which party held in high esteem a former higher up in the KKK?

Me thinks you have made up YOUR mind already and it isn't the Party's fault.
Jeez, Louise! This is the second reference to Robert Bryd today. (The other was in a different thread.) Did Rush give the RW this talking point today?
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:53 PM
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the choice is easy once you look at em'
RNC: Republican National Committee | RNC: Republican National Committee | GOP
Democrats.org
no reason to vote republican ever
REALLY!!! GOP should not be able to garner any more than 1-2% of any popular votes (the rich). The reason they get more than that is simply because of the uneducated brainwashed masses ... which is the exact reason they want to kill the education standards in the U.S.A.
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