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View Poll Results: Liberal America, Conservative America or Libertarian America: Pick One
I Would Move to a 100% Liberal America 49 26.34%
I Would Move to a 100% Conservative America 37 19.89%
I Would Move to a 100% Libertarian America 87 46.77%
I Would Move to Hills and Be a Lone Survivalist!! 13 6.99%
Voters: 186. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-18-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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The Libertarian state sounds "too good to be true". I'm not sure if that is a risk many would be willing to take. But either way, if the Libertarian state did work out, it would influence the liberal state in the form of soft power. So... I could do with either or, but social conservatism? You would have to kill me first...

 
Old 04-18-2011, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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sign me up for the libertarian nation...

yes to trade with the other nations.

who knows if the others would be around in 10 years, i figure i'de be too busy enjoying my liberty, and working by choice with other fellow libertarians to better our country. it's all about choices, rather than threats and requirements.
depends if you are not part of NAFTA since it is only agreed free trade between Canada, US, and Mexico and you would be a new country and things could get expensive since unless yiour country is Canada, US, and Mexico you have no bi-lateral freetrade and NAFTA could put a huge import export tariff on your new nation so if you think stuff is expensive now wait till we put a 50%-60 tariff on north american made goods and agriculture on your new country that you would freelt choose to pay 60% more for everything you pretty much eat and drink or consume. so gas would be $8-9 bucks a gallon if it come from a US, Canadian, or mexican refinery plus what is your currency worth what is your GDP your doller could be worth 20 cents so gas could be 8-9 bucks US but you have to pay 5 times that due to the exchange rate.

plus you are not aprt of NORAD so US and Canada and don't have to protect your airspace from russian and chinese fighters and long range bombers unless they come too close to the US and canadian border then we senf up our F-18's and F-15s and shoot it down our escort it out but with no US military to support and protect your new nation and a F-35 is the needed plane and 65 plus spare parts are the minium to to be in NORAD after 2016 you would need a Gen 5 fighter and it has to be made in the US you to to buy atleast 65 F-35 at 20cents on the doller and at a current price of $139.5M US a pop your cost would be 679.5M per plane to be in NORAD ...so ouch

watch out for old soviet cold war era bear bombers flying overhead

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Old 04-18-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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Michigan has 3,288 miles of coastline, second only to Alaska in the U.S.

In the contiguous U.S. Michigan has a longer coastline than either the Pacific coast, the Atlantic coast or the Gulf Coast.

Michigan has a Republican Governor.
My version of beach doesn't include snow shovels.
 
Old 04-18-2011, 02:38 PM
 
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They tried that in the Soviet Union. You got a bunch of lazy drunks standing in line for toilet paper because no one bothered making more.
LOL!

Way too funny...but true!
 
Old 04-18-2011, 02:46 PM
 
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Sign me up for the libertarian nation. I want to be free to live my life and build my business as I see fit. I want a govt whose sole purpose was to protect property rights and protect the flow of commerce. If you want to eat, you better get to work.

I don't care what you do in your bedroom, but don't come crying to me to pay for what happens as a result of what you did there.

Who is John Galt?
 
Old 04-18-2011, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Well, I wouldn't move, so I'd be in whatever nation I happened to wind up in.
 
Old 04-18-2011, 03:08 PM
 
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Well, I wouldn't move, so I'd be in whatever nation I happened to wind up in.

Lucky for you you don't live in California.
 
Old 04-19-2011, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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why would that matter?

I don't agree with any of the three, so it wouldn't matter. I'd be in whatever nation happened to be where I'm living.
 
Old 04-19-2011, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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You forgot the "republican form".

GOVERNMENT (Republican Form of Government)- One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people ... directly ...
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, P. 695


See Art. 4, Sec. 4, USCON.
 
Old 04-19-2011, 03:12 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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so the question is, would you rather live in a nanny state (liberal), a faith based state (conservative) or a state where the goverment leaves you alone (Libertarian) except for what the Constitution allows for such as protecting the populace from force and fraud.
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