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Old 04-19-2011, 01:40 PM
 
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Call him what he is - a liar. And he'll never change, because he can't. He's a compulsive liar and always will be. I really think he can't tell the truth if he tried.
No, he is just a politician. Not a bad one either. But a far cry from the Miracle Worker a lot of people saw him as.
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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Wasn't that what her said his stimulus was goig to fix;infrastructure? We now know what it was tewo years later when public unions are finally effect has it runs out.
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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Wow.

You would think that the guy backed a bridge to nowhere.

Palin backed 'bridge to nowhere' in 2006 - USATODAY.com
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:51 PM
 
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Just the latest example of bs to push his agenda
Do you dispute the findings of the American Society of Civil Engineers that one in four bridges in the U.S. are structurally deficient or functionally obsolete?

Bridges | Report Card for America's Infrastructure

Or the Minnesota Department of Transportations findings in part coincide with the ASCE study regarding functional obsolence being a contributing factor in the collapse?:

The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable
cause of the collapse of the I-35W bridge in Minneapolis, Minnesota, was the
inadequate load capacity, due to a design error by Sverdrup & Parcel and Associates,
Inc., of the gusset plates at the U10 nodes, which failed under a combination of
(1) [b]substantial increases in the weight of the bridge, which resulted from previous bridge modifications, and (2) the traffic and concentrated construction loads on the bridge on the day of the collapse. Contributing to the design error was the failure of Sverdrup & Parcel’s quality control procedures to ensure that the appropriate main truss gusset plate calculations were performed for the I-35W bridge and the inadequate design review by Federal and State transportation officials.

Contributing to the accident was the generally accepted practice among Federal and State transportation officials of giving inadequate attention to gusset plates during inspections for conditions of distortion, such as bowing, and of excluding gusset plates in load rating analyses.

http://www.dot.state.mn.us/i35wbridg...inalreport.pdf
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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O cited this incident to back his increase in taxes. He was not being truthful.
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:02 PM
 
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It is painfully obvious that Obama's interest is in pure statist ideology in the "fundamental transformation" of the USA and not with economic prosperity or jobs. Serial liar in chief? Absolutely. In Decmeber he passed the continuation of the Bush tax rates admitting that it would be necessary to grow the economy. Fast forward 4 months and he says he only signed it to keep taxes from being raised on the middle class. Which is it?

"A liar, is a liar, is a liar." -Ret. Gen. Norman Swartzkopf (refering to Fmr. Pres. Clinton...but the shoe still fits for Obama)
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:02 PM
 
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Do you dispute the findings of the American Society of Civil Engineers that one in four bridges in the U.S. are structurally deficient or functionally obsolete?

Bridges | Report Card for America's Infrastructure

Or the Minnesota Department of Transportations findings in part coincide with the ASCE study regarding functional obsolence being a contributing factor in the collapse?:

The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable
cause of the collapse of the I-35W bridge in Minneapolis, Minnesota, was the
inadequate load capacity, due to a design error by Sverdrup & Parcel and Associates,
Inc., of the gusset plates at the U10 nodes, which failed under a combination of
(1) [b]substantial increases in the weight of the bridge, which resulted from previous bridge modifications, and (2) the traffic and concentrated construction loads on the bridge on the day of the collapse. Contributing to the design error was the failure of Sverdrup & Parcel’s quality control procedures to ensure that the appropriate main truss gusset plate calculations were performed for the I-35W bridge and the inadequate design review by Federal and State transportation officials.

Contributing to the accident was the generally accepted practice among Federal and State transportation officials of giving inadequate attention to gusset plates during inspections for conditions of distortion, such as bowing, and of excluding gusset plates in load rating analyses.

http://www.dot.state.mn.us/i35wbridg...inalreport.pdf
This has nothing to do with BO using it like he did.
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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No, he is just a politician. Not a bad one either. But a far cry from the Miracle Worker a lot of people saw him as.
No, politicians stretch the truth. And lie on occasion. But this man lies every time his gaping pie hole opens. He really is incapable of telling the truth. Not sure if it's his utter narcissism or that he truly is a psychopathic liar.

I never saw him as a miracle worker. I saw him for exactly what he is.
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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Just another Flame thread.
Maybe there's a need to fan the flames.....
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Maybe there's a need to fan the flames.....
Couldn't be that S&P downgrade from yesterday that Obama clearly ignores could it?

I mean, isn't fiscal responsibility what some, especially conservative tea partiers, have been pushing for since the end of Bush's spendfest? Obama tripled down on the deficit and shows no sign of stopping unless his credicard is forcefully taken from him by the House and cut up like Dave Ramsey on steroids!

Last edited by lifelongMOgal; 04-19-2011 at 02:57 PM.. Reason: typo
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