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Old 04-21-2011, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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You/your parents got one free shortly following birth if you were born in the USA. If you or your parents misplaced it the rest are on your dime.
Yep! I've got mine from 1948, with the impressed seal on it. Sent it to the State Dept for a passport and they sent it back when done.

I'd be willing to carry my passport to the polling place to vote. I try to show my DL but they just wave it off... 'We don't need that.' Not next time... heh!
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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The right to vote, for those eligble, is clearly defined and thus protected in the US Constitution. You should read it sometime.
That's nice. I never said there wasn't a right to vote. I said that the counting should be protected
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:39 PM
 
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Give me a break. We should ALL be ensuring that only legal citizens of this country have the right to vote in our country. There is nothing wrong with proving you are who you say you are, unless you've got something to hide.
And then after we've been so damn careful with who's voting we let a machine count the votes with no oversight at all?? Yeah that's real brilliant
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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That's nice. I never said there wasn't a right to vote. I said that the counting should be protected
It is. There are multiple layers of protection of ballots and oversight of those doing the counting during the process. I'm guessing you've never been an election official or educated yourself on the process, would that be correct?

You also question why the vote should be protected, thus my statement regarding the protection of the right under the US Constitution.

Are you going to answer my previous questions or not?
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:43 PM
 
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Those machines can be programmed anyway the programmer wants them programmed., There is no oversight. No possibility of a recount.

It would be like giving one guy all the ballots and he takes them and counts them and then tells you the results after he burns all the ballots and that number he gave you is what you have to accept
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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Those machines can be programmed anyway the programmer wants them programmed., There is no oversight. No possibility of a recount.

It would be like giving one guy all the ballots and he takes them and counts them and then tells you the results after he burns all the ballots and that number he gave you is what you have to accept
You have the option of filling out a paper ballot. Why don't you use it if you don't trust the "machines".
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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Those machines can be programmed anyway the programmer wants them programmed., There is no oversight. No possibility of a recount.

It would be like giving one guy all the ballots and he takes them and counts them and then tells you the results after he burns all the ballots and that number he gave you is what you have to accept
Again, you should be completely outraged at Soros' SoS project.
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:49 PM
 
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It is. There are multiple layers of protection of ballots and oversight of those doing the counting during the process. I'm guessing you've never been an election official or educated yourself on the process, would that be correct?

You also question why the vote should be protected, thus my statement regarding the protection of the right under the US Constitution.

Are you going to answer my previous questions or not?
No that would not be correct at all. that would be way off. I have worked as a warden several times and am well aware of the security precautions taken to safeguard the ballot, at least here in Cambridge Massachusetts, where among other precautions you can't deposit two ballots at the same time in the ballot box

There are no multiple layers of protection when there's no paper trail. There isn't any layer of protection when there's no paper trail. And there are still places in the US where people have to vote that way
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:50 PM
 
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Again, you should be completely outraged at Soros' SoS project.
Do you actually have something or you just throwing out the Soros name??
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:52 PM
 
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So how many other countries allow just anyone including non-citizens to vote? What's the problem? You don't want to make the least bit of effort to become a voter? Or you aren't a citizen?
Get back to me when they start doing something about voter intimidation and lack of a paper trail
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