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Old 07-29-2007, 11:27 PM
 
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Poll Finds Figure Is Considerably Higher Than Two Years Ago.

Three in 10 Americans say the Supreme Court is "too conservative," up sharply from two years ago and now substantially more than call it "too liberal." Just under half say the court is about balanced ideologically in its decisions.

ABC News: 3 in 10 Call SCOTUS 'Too Conservative'
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Old 07-29-2007, 11:38 PM
 
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The majority of people in the poll (47%) said that they thought it was balanced. Yet ABC runs with the headline 3 in 10 Call SCOTUS 'Too Conservative'.
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Old 07-30-2007, 12:31 AM
 
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...... Yet ABC runs with the headline 3 in 10 Call SCOTUS 'Too Conservative'.
I had the same thought you did. So in other words, 7 in 10 don't think it's too consrvative.

Also, "up sharply". From what? 1? 2? WOW!
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:19 AM
 
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Ha ha ha! and stations like ABC wonders why their ratings are so low.
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The public is finally starting to wake up. The WP seems to have correctly reported the poll numbers.

According to this article, congress can add or eliminate SC justices.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/26/op...gewanted=print


WHEN a majority of Supreme Court justices adopt a manifestly ideological agenda, it plunges the court into the vortex of American politics. If the Roberts court has entered voluntarily what Justice Felix Frankfurter once called the “political thicket,” it may require a political solution to set it straight.

The framers of the Constitution did not envisage the Supreme Court as arbiter of all national issues. As Chief Justice John Marshall made clear in Marbury v. Madison, the court’s authority extends only to legal issues.

When the court overreaches, the Constitution provides checks and balances. In 1805, after persistent political activity by Justice Samuel Chase, Congress responded with its power of impeachment. Chase was acquitted, but never again did he step across the line to mingle law and politics. After the Civil War, when a Republican Congress feared the court might tamper with Reconstruction in the South, it removed those questions from the court’s appellate jurisdiction.

But the method most frequently employed to bring the court to heel has been increasing or decreasing its membership. The size of the Supreme Court is not fixed by the Constitution. It is determined by Congress.

The original Judiciary Act of 1789 set the number of justices at six. When the Federalists were defeated in 1800, the lame-duck Congress reduced the size of the court to five — hoping to deprive President Jefferson of an appointment. The incoming Democratic Congress repealed the Federalist measure (leaving the number at six), and then in 1807 increased the size of the court to seven, giving Jefferson an additional appointment.

In 1837, the number was increased to nine, affording the Democrat Andrew Jackson two additional appointments. During the Civil War, to insure an anti-slavery, pro-Union majority on the bench, the court was increased to 10. When a Democrat, Andrew Johnson, became president upon Lincoln’s death, a Republican Congress voted to reduce the size to seven (achieved by attrition) to guarantee Johnson would have no appointments.

After Ulysses S. Grant was elected in 1868, Congress restored the court to nine. That gave Grant two new appointments. The court had just declared unconstitutional the government’s authority to issue paper currency (greenbacks). Grant took the opportunity to appoint two justices sympathetic to the administration. When the reconstituted court convened, it reheard the legal tender cases and reversed its decision (5-4).

The most recent attempt to alter the size of the court was by Franklin Roosevelt in 1937. But instead of simply requesting that Congress add an additional justice or two, Roosevelt’s convoluted scheme fooled no one and ultimately sank under its own weight.

Roosevelt claimed the justices were too old to keep up with the workload, and urged that for every justice who reached the age of 70 and did not retire within six months, the president should be able to appoint a younger justice to help out. Six of the Supreme Court justices in 1937 were older than 70. But the court was not behind in its docket, and Roosevelt’s subterfuge was exposed. In the Senate, the president could muster only 20 supporters.

Still, there is nothing sacrosanct about having nine justices on the Supreme Court. Roosevelt’s 1937 chicanery has given court-packing a bad name, but it is a hallowed American political tradition participated in by Republicans and Democrats alike.

If the current five-man majority persists in thumbing its nose at popular values, the election of a Democratic president and Congress could provide a corrective. It requires only a majority vote in both houses to add a justice or two. Chief Justice John Roberts and his conservative colleagues might do well to bear in mind that the roll call of presidents who have used this option includes not just Roosevelt but also Adams, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln and Grant.

From Politico:
"New York Sen. Charles E. Schumer, a powerful member of the Democratic leadership, said Friday the Senate should not confirm another U.S. Supreme Court nominee under President Bush “except in extraordinary circumstances.”

Schumer to fight new Bush high court picks - Carrie Budoff - Politico.com

From Washington Post
Fewer See Balance in Court's Decisions - washingtonpost.com

"About half of the public thinks the Supreme Court is generally balanced in its decisions, but a growing number of Americans say the court has become "too conservative" in the two years since President Bush began nominating justices, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Democrats blocking a handful of Bush's judicial nominees? Remember Bill Frist and his threats to invoke the dreaded 'nuclear option'? Well, how much of that kind of rhetoric do you hear on FOX News now that the Republicans can only resort to that same tactic across the board? Seems like Republican devotion to principle doesn't really run quite as deep as they sometimes say it does...[/quote]
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Old 07-30-2007, 07:49 AM
 
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I had the same thought you did. So in other words, 7 in 10 don't think it's too consrvative.

Also, "up sharply". From what? 1? 2? WOW!

Looking at the general awareness of many people it's possible that 5 out of 10 think the SCOTUS is a MoTown group from the '60s.
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:44 PM
 
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Looking at the general awareness of many people it's possible that 5 out of 10 think the SCOTUS is a MoTown group from the '60s.
That or a rash-like condition the affects one's unmentionable parts.
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:49 PM
 
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Poll Finds Figure Is Considerably Higher Than Two Years Ago.

Three in 10 Americans say the Supreme Court is "too conservative," up sharply from two years ago and now substantially more than call it "too liberal." Just under half say the court is about balanced ideologically in its decisions.

ABC News: 3 in 10 Call SCOTUS 'Too Conservative'
And I bet a couple years ago, 8 in 10 probably called the Supreme Court too liberal... and it was!
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Regardless of sentiment about the current court, I think both parties will make this an issue in the next election. I expect the Democrats to make Scalia an issue concerning who gets into the White House. I think at times the election will become Scalia vs the Democrat's nominee.

The reason for this tactic? They want to maximize activation of their left wing base, figuring the candidate will try to capture much of the center with their campaign.
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Old 07-31-2007, 08:43 AM
 
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What can you say about a court that pretends that the Constitution guarantees "rights" nowhere mentioned in it (abortion, sodomy), while it abridges rights that the Constitution explicitly guarantees? (freedom of speech, the right to keep and bear arms)?

I have to suspect that those who view the SCOTUS as "too conservative" really don't give a damn what the Constitution says. They want what they want, and any judicial misconstruction is fine with them as long as it gets them what they want.
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