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Old 04-24-2011, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Inland Empire, Calif
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The people of Dearborn aren't my enemies, and i don't know how they're yours either.

How about we just respect others and leave them the hell alone. Seen any American Muslims wanting to burn a Bible outside of a Christian church? Some people need their asses kicked, and this pastor should get in line.
Muslims don't burn Bibles, that would be far to tame, they murder people.
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The issue here isn't one crazy FL preacher, but whether or not we will allow our rights under our Constitution be made subservient to those who threaten violence.

Well, let's see:

We allowed ourselves to be refused the right to board an airplane without a full-body pat down because of a threat of violence.

We allowed police to monitor all our phone calls and e-mails without a warrant because of a threat of violence.

We allowed American citizens to be thrown into a literal black hole without charge and forever because of a threat of violence.

We adopted torture as a legitimate government enterprise because of a threat of violence.

We established extra-legal, secret prisons because of a threat of violence.


How am I doin' so far?
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Old 04-24-2011, 12:02 PM
 
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Qur'an-burning pastor ordered to stay away from Dearborn mosque for 3 years as planned protest is ruled "likely to provoke violence" - Jihad Watch

Nazis can have a rally, Pro-abortionists can have a rally, Black Panthers can have a rally but no rally if you want to protest Islamic Supremicists. The message we are sending to our enemies: Intemidation works. Threaten violence and we will back down and imprison our own people. We will censor cartoons. If violence breaks out we won't blame those who commit the acts of violence we will blame those who "provoked" them, as if Muslims are children who can't possibly be expected to control themselves.
he should go across the street like that "church" does at funerals for fallen military.
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Old 04-24-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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Well, let's see:

We allowed ourselves to be refused the right to board an airplane without a full-body pat down because of a threat of violence.

We allowed police to monitor all our phone calls and e-mails without a warrant because of a threat of violence.

We allowed American citizens to be thrown into a literal black hole without charge and forever because of a threat of violence.

We adopted torture as a legitimate government enterprise because of a threat of violence.

We established extra-legal, secret prisons because of a threat of violence.


How am I doin' so far?
All of which are also shameful and should be stopped. This series of injustices in no way justifies yet another one.
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Old 04-24-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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yet courts all over America issue protection orders every day... should we end that practice too. because it might violate a wife beater's rights...
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All of which are also shameful and should be stopped. This series of injustices in no way justifies yet another one.
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Old 04-24-2011, 06:22 PM
 
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Muslims don't burn Bibles, that would be far to tame, they murder people.
They haven't murdered me. Only Muslims murder people?
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Old 04-24-2011, 06:38 PM
 
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They haven't murdered me. Only Muslims murder people?
It's impossible to argue with somebody that is a just a flat-out racist. Don't bother.

We know the goodness of many races - especially having the opportunity for years to interact with Muslims in Dearborn.

Unfortunately, others for whatever reason are bigots.
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
The people of Dearborn aren't my enemies, and i don't know how they're yours either.

How about we just respect others and leave them the hell alone. Seen any American Muslims wanting to burn a Bible outside of a Christian church? Some people need their asses kicked, and this pastor should get in line.
No they have bigger things to burn like the Church with the people inside them. The bibles can be burned that way.


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The bomb blew up outside Sacred Heart church in Baghdad's central Karrada district, shattering windows in nearby buildings and severely damaging a police pick-up truck at the church gate.


The explosion occurred after the church had been cleared of parishioners following services on Easter Sunday, which marks the resurrection of Christ after his crucifixion.

At least four hurt in Easter blast near Baghdad church | Reuters
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Old 04-24-2011, 07:45 PM
 
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It's impossible to argue with somebody that is a just a flat-out racist. Don't bother.

We know the goodness of many races - especially having the opportunity for years to interact with Muslims in Dearborn.

Unfortunately, others for whatever reason are bigots.
Muslim is a race?
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Old 04-24-2011, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Yes, public safety.

Crowds of anti-protestors and Jones' supporters had already gathered in front of the mosque, requiring over 40 Dearborn police and reinforcements from the State Police just to keep order. And Jones wasn't even there yet! When the local Muslim leader came to ask the crowd to be peaceful, even he had to be escorted by police for his own safety. Moreover, when Jones exited a police car somewhere (the courthouse, I think) the pistol in his pocket accidently discharged. Yes...the pistol in the preachers pocket.

The police were rightly concerned that a similar incident during the rally could set off a major firefight between the different groups.

Any event like this carries a high probability of violence and public safety IS a consideration. Not to mention the cost of providing protection for everyone. Purchasing a bond to ensure peace and safety is prudent and Jones could have already been finished with his rally had he just gone ahead and posted the bond. But, he refused.

I suspect this protest has more to do with creating court case to "prove" something, or to make a statement, than it does anything else.



MLK should have been required to post a peace bond just incase toothless redneck inbreds might get out of line?

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